67 Clamp & Rivet Help

[Kirk M.]

Check out these pictures. I need to install a new rivet and clamp on the driver's side of my 67 along the hood channel back towards the master cylinder. The clamp this rivet is to hold is for the electrical wiring running from the firewall towards the front. Several questions:

1. Is the clamp pictured the proper clamp for that position?

2. What kinda of rivet do I need and where do I get them.

3. Finally, how do I "set" the rivet in that position on the car? Obviously, I can't hammer it in place?

Thanks.

Kirk

[Kirk M.]

Re: 67 Clamp & Rivet Help

Did some Google Searching. Do you install the clamp with a pop rivet tool???


Kirk

[Wayne M.]

Re: 67 Clamp & Rivet Help

Check out these pictures. I need to install a new rivet and clamp on the driver's side of my 67 along the hood channel back towards the master cylinder. The clamp this rivet is to hold is for the electrical wiring running from the firewall towards the front. Several questions:

1. Is the clamp pictured the proper clamp for that position?

2. What kinda of rivet do I need and where do I get them.....

Can offer this example from my '65 S-body car. The clip finally fell off after the body shop used excessive sanding in the hood gutter (to remove that dastardly bump [rivet head], I assume --- this was back in 1983).

Per '65 TIM&JG, A-body cars had these 2 clips (either side) bonded, not riveted. In fact, IIRC, the '65 AIM calls for bonding; St.Louis must'a decided to rivet.

IMO, (based on '65), You have the correct type of clip (ie. with the rolled edges, not square/sharp at loop end [like the hood release X-cable], and not rubber coated, like air car battery cable retainers. I wonder if they were just plain steel, though; not painted.

Solid rivet as described in '67 (I assume) TIM&JG, and is aluminum.

[Keith B.]

Re: 67 Clamp & Rivet Help

most original car I looked at over the years use a roseit rivet like used on vin tags. I believe at one time Paragon sold them.

[Craig O.]

Re: 67 Clamp & Rivet Help

I believe the rivet is a standard 1/8" round head aluminum and can be set with a standard pop rivet tool, remember the hooked side faces out not the engine side

[John H.]

Re: 67 Clamp & Rivet Help

There's one clip like that on each side - they're attached with ordinary 1/8" pop-rivets, and the rivet heads are painted (the clips were installed in the Body Shop, prior to paint). See page 90 in the JG.

[Kirk M.]

Re: 67 Clamp & Rivet Help

Thanks everyone.

Now I need to get a pop rivet tool and some rivets. Think I will order the set of clips and rivets from CC and use my original "J" clamp.

John, were on the opposite side was this clamp used as well, and was it there for AC cars?

Kirk

[Craig O.]

Re: 67 Clamp & Rivet Help

both sides get the clip. you can get the 1/8'' pop rivets and the hand pop rivet tool at your local Ace or similar hardware store for under 15 bucks

[Wayne W.]

Re: 67 Clamp & Rivet Help

There's one clip like that on each side - they're attached with ordinary 1/8" pop-rivets, and the rivet heads are painted (the clips were installed in the Body Shop, prior to paint). See page 90 in the JG.

By 67 they were all riveted as John says, but earlier they were bonded. 63s and 64s were mostly if not all bonded. In 65 some are bonded some are riveted. In 65 we see some solid aluminum rivets instead of pop rivets. By 66 most if not all were riveted, but the rivets vary and some did in fact have Rosette rivets. So much for the security of Rosette rivets. Most were, however, the common pop rivets.

[Henry S.]

Re: 67 Clamp & Rivet Help

On the subject of the clips, how many and where are they located (67) along the firewall? The JG said (I believe) there is one above the heater motor. I think mine also has one close to the power brake booster and one above the windshield wiper motor.

[Kirk M.]

Re: 67 Clamp & Rivet Help

The one am fixing is by the power brake booster. Haven't looked along the firewall.


Kirk

[Wayne W.]

Re: 67 Clamp & Rivet Help

On the subject of the clips, how many and where are they located (67) along the firewall? The JG said (I believe) there is one above the heater motor. I think mine also has one close to the power brake booster and one above the windshield wiper motor.

It depends. There was the placement of the common rivets that all cars had. They are shown in the AIM and were installed at body build. These generally had solid aluminum rivets. Then there were the options. BB,AC,etc. which required placements of other wires and hoses. These were installed later in the build and tend to be pop riveted.

[Henry S.]

Re: 67 Clamp & Rivet Help

It depends. There was the placement of the common rivets that all cars had. They are shown in the AIM and were installed at body build. These generally had solid aluminum rivets. Then there were the options. BB,AC,etc. which required placements of other wires and hoses. These were installed later in the build and tend to be pop riveted.

Wayne, The one above my wiper motor if I remember correctly is attached to some sort of "hook". I don't know if it is correct or not, I haven't checked the AIM. The clip has come off the hook a couple times so I try to reattach it. I'll try to check the AIM later. Thanks

[Wayne M.]

Re: 67 Clamp & Rivet Help

It depends. There was the placement of the common rivets that all cars had. They are shown in the AIM and were installed at body build. These generally had solid aluminum rivets. Then there were the options. BB,AC,etc. which required placements of other wires and hoses. These were installed later in the build and tend to be pop riveted.

Good info; as far as 1965 AIM is concerned, I've made notes in mine to X-reference most of the clips/rivets for the engine comp't and transmission tunnel. For other C2 years, the pages noted may not be exactly the same, but close.

UPC 11-13 Sheet B5
UPC 12, Sheet C3, A9, A11
UPC M20, Sheet 4
UPC C60 Sheet E2

There may be others. Interesting to see which clips/rivets were called out in the various sections.

[John H.]

Re: 67 Clamp & Rivet Help

On a '67, the larger clips near the top of the dash panel (for the hood cross-cable, wire harness, etc.) were solid aluminum-riveted. The ones on the side of the hood opening (on the gutter flange) were pop-riveted. The one on the driver's side is about 11" forward of the rear sharp corner of the hood opening, and the one on the passenger side is about 7-1/2" forward of the same point on that side.