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  • Markus S.
    Expired
    • June 10, 2009
    • 4

    Electronic Ignition for my 1960 FI

    I am planning to upgrade my C1 '60 fulie with the best electronic ignition system on the market to fit into my old distributor. This as a first step to get it to fire reliably on all cylinders. If still bad performance I'll get the Rochester ...320 FI restored. If still unreliable I'll try my friends advice to get carbs and after that ...?
    Who can give me a recommendation on the best electronic ignition solution ?
    Many thanks ! Markus
  • Jack H.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • March 31, 1990
    • 9906

    #2
    Re: Electronic Ignition for my 1960 FI

    There are MANY prior threads on this in the archives which you can search and peruse. But, quite a few of us like the Breakerless SE system manufactured by M&H and sold by quite a few including Lectric Limited.

    Note: For this to install and work on your car, you need to have the factory original FI distributor with either a D-308 or D-324, lift window points adjusting cap...

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    • Bruce B.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • May 31, 1996
      • 2930

      #3
      Re: Electronic Ignition for my 1960 FI

      Look into a Pertronix system.
      I have had one in my 62 340HP car for 12 years with NO problems.

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      • Bob H.
        Very Frequent User
        • July 31, 2000
        • 789

        #4
        Re: Electronic Ignition for my 1960 FI

        I agree. The Pertronics SINGLE WIRE set is the way to go. Easy install and uses stock coil. Can't tell it's installed unless you remove the cap. I believe it is made by M&H

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        • Bruce B.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • May 31, 1996
          • 2930

          #5
          Re: Electronic Ignition for my 1960 FI

          Pertronix is actually manufactured by Pertronix Inc.
          Made in U.S.A.

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          • Bob H.
            Very Frequent User
            • July 31, 2000
            • 789

            #6
            Re: Electronic Ignition for my 1960 FI

            oops. I have used both with great success.

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            • Jim L.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • September 30, 1979
              • 1805

              #7
              Re: Electronic Ignition for my 1960 FI

              Originally posted by Markus Sunitsch (50518)
              This as a first step to get it to fire reliably on all cylinders. If still bad performance I'll get the Rochester ...320 FI restored. If still unreliable I'll try my friends advice to get carbs and after that ...?
              I'll be the contrarian here. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a points type ignition system.

              To get your engine firing on all cylinders, focus on first principles: Make sure your plugs, plug wires, distributor cap, rotor, condenser, and points are all in good condition.

              If, after checking and replacing these things, you still don't have all 8 cylinders participating equally, then it might be time to look at the FI unit.

              But first, focus on the basics.

              There is NO reason to replace the FI unit with carburetors just to get all 8 cylinders going. None. Zip. Zero.

              Jim

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              • Patrick H.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • November 30, 1989
                • 11608

                #8
                Re: Electronic Ignition for my 1960 FI

                Originally posted by Jim Lockwood (2750)
                I'll be the contrarian here. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a points type ignition system.

                To get your engine firing on all cylinders, focus on first principles: Make sure your plugs, plug wires, distributor cap, rotor, condenser, and points are all in good condition.

                If, after checking and replacing these things, you still don't have all 8 cylinders participating equally, then it might be time to look at the FI unit.

                But first, focus on the basics.

                There is NO reason to replace the FI unit with carburetors just to get all 8 cylinders going. None. Zip. Zero.

                Jim
                I'll agree with Jim - and one of my cars even has a Pertronix system.
                There is a reason that you can't get your car to run as you'd like it to run. I'd suggest that you are best off figuring out that reason before you go about replacing parts without knowing "why" or "how" a change will help - or hurt - what you're doing.

                I think that the ignition parts in my 72 (cap, rotor, points, condenser) are probably 25 years old. The wires are repros installed in 2000 with new AC plugs as well. No problems at all in that car. Just removed cap, rotor, points and condenser as well as wires from another 72 that were installed in 1984 - and the car ran fine despite the fact that the points and rotor were "not good quality" and the distributor cap was cracked. However, I'm not about to let the owner have it back after I've worked on it for 9 months and have it quit on him, so I replaced them with high quality parts.

                Don't be afraid to ask specific questions so that we can help you get your car running right!

                Patrick
                Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                71 "deer modified" coupe
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                • Markus S.
                  Expired
                  • June 10, 2009
                  • 4

                  #9
                  Re: Electronic Ignition for my 1960 FI

                  Thank you all very much. Your feedback in invaluable, really appreciated.
                  I'll keep you posted what made the trick.
                  Best
                  Markus

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                  • William F.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • June 9, 2009
                    • 1354

                    #10
                    Re: Electronic Ignition for my 1960 FI

                    Problem is, the higher compression engines-11:1 like L-79 won't fire plugs after a few hundred miles on new plugs(misses) unless you have a hotter than standard spark in my experience. I went to an MSD multi spark box triggered by a Pertronix point replacement on last L79 I had.Has anyone tried the new Pertronix3 which has multi spark and point replacement trigger combined within the stock distributor-sounds good if it works?

                    William Ford

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                    • Bruce B.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • May 31, 1996
                      • 2930

                      #11
                      Re: Electronic Ignition for my 1960 FI

                      My 62 Corvette 340 HP is 11.25 to 1 compression and ran fine for years on stock points and coil. With the Pertronix and stock coil it runs better but as someone stated previously point type systems have run well for years.

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                      • Donald L.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • September 30, 1998
                        • 461

                        #12
                        Re: Electronic Ignition for my 1960 FI

                        Not to get into a debate about electronic vs. point ignition but the trick to a good running point ignition system is optimizing the ignition map, blueprinting the distributor to factory specs and using HD quality ignition parts.

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                        • Duke W.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • December 31, 1992
                          • 15610

                          #13
                          Re: Electronic Ignition for my 1960 FI

                          Agree with the above. The key to a properly functioning ignition system is, first of all, a properly functioning distributor, and even new some distributors were so sloppily assembled, they didn't work, but a few shims will take care of that. Next is plug wires that meet spec and one heat range hotter spark plug than OE.

                          Trying to solve a "problem" by re-engineering the system is a ticket to nowwhere. Fix the OE system and it will work just fine.

                          All the details are in the archives.

                          Duke

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                          • John H.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • November 30, 1997
                            • 16513

                            #14
                            Re: Electronic Ignition for my 1960 FI

                            Originally posted by William Ford (50517)
                            Problem is, the higher compression engines-11:1 like L-79 won't fire plugs after a few hundred miles on new plugs(misses) unless you have a hotter than standard spark in my experience.
                            I've never heard of such a thing (except in the marketing hype for electronic conversions) - I've had 11:1 small-blocks for decades, and they run like gangbusters with properly set up OEM stock ignition systems and correctly-selected heat range spark plugs. Don't drink the Kool-Aid...

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                            • Jim L.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • September 30, 1979
                              • 1805

                              #15
                              Re: Electronic Ignition for my 1960 FI

                              Originally posted by William Ford (50517)
                              Problem is, the higher compression engines-11:1 like L-79 won't fire plugs after a few hundred miles on new plugs(misses) unless you have a hotter than standard spark in my experience.
                              The engine in my vintage racer has 11.7:1 compression and, in the spirit of vintage racing, I run points. They are so reliable and work so well that I get a couple of thousand track miles out of a set.

                              Jim

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