Delco-Remy w /Aluminum rear?

[Kenneth T.]

Has anyone seen a Delco starter with an aluminum rear cover in a Corvette?
This one is made by McKinnion of Canada.

I have read the archives and McKinnion was a supplier for GM and the JG also states it, but I have not seen a starter with type of rear cover.

It is an 1108427, small block auto trans unit.

Ken

[Joe L.]

Re: Delco-Remy w /Aluminum rear?

Has anyone seen a Delco starter with an aluminum rear cover in a Corvette?
This one is made by McKinnion of Canada.

I have read the archives and McKinnion was a supplier for GM and the JG also states it, but I have not seen a starter with type of rear cover.

It is an 1108427, small block auto trans unit.

Ken

Ken-----


I've never seen one. However, this starter appears to be configured just as its part number apparently indicates. So, it's very possible that the whole unit is as it was originally configured. It has the GM #1984097 nose and is of the standard torque variety.

By the way, while McKinnon was a supplier to GM (and, I think, later taken over by GM), I don't think any of their components were used on US-built vehicles. There might have been some exceptions, but I think this is generally true.

[John P.]

Re: Delco-Remy w /Aluminum rear?

The aluminum commutator end plate in your picture was used on Delco starters in 1955-56. For the 1957 model year the 10 MT series was introduced. It had an enclosed solenoid linkage and used a stamped steel commutator plate.I also have no knowledge of a Delco-McKinnon starter ever being used on a US made and delivered car.

[John P.]

Re: Delco-Remy w /Aluminum rear?

Another point,Delco starters were painted semi-flat black as a unit,so the drive end (nose) should also be painted.

[Kenneth T.]

Re: Delco-Remy w /Aluminum rear?

The aluminum commutator end plate in your picture was used on Delco starters in 1955-56. For the 1957 model year the 10 MT series was introduced. It had an enclosed solenoid linkage and used a stamped steel commutator plate.I also have no knowledge of a Delco-McKinnon starter ever being used on a US made and delivered car.

If anyone would know starters it would be you, John. This one is dated 9H28 for 1969 or early 1970 ? It does not look like a restamp, so your '55-56 comment leaves me wondering about what it is for ?
Ken

[Joe L.]

Re: Delco-Remy w /Aluminum rear?

If anyone would know starters it would be you, John. This one is dated 9H28 for 1969 or early 1970 ? It does not look like a restamp, so your '55-56 comment leaves me wondering about what it is for ?
Ken

Ken-----

GM #1108427 is a 1970 model year starter. The date on yours, August 28, 1969, would be consistent with that. As I mentioned, the nose piece and standard torque configuration are consistent with the starter part number. However, it's possible that the end plate has been replaced. If it's been through a commercial rebuilding operation, most sorts of re-configuration are possible. In that case, it's possible that it's just by happenstance that it has the same configuration nose as it was originally built with. Is this supposed to be an NOS piece or might it have been through a commercial rebuilding operation?

[John P.]

Re: Delco-Remy w /Aluminum rear?

It has the look most typical of a starter that has been to a commercial rebuilder. It is very common for a mass rebuilder to shot peen(tumble)components to clean them and not repaint the aluminum pieces because they wont rust,The steel and iron parts get painted to prevent the rust.

[John P.]

Re: Delco-Remy w /Aluminum rear?

Joe's info on the part number and date code are spot on.

[William C.]

Re: Delco-Remy w /Aluminum rear?

McKinnon Industries was GM owned and was a canadian version of the "Automotive components group" in the US. Made lots of things, even had a radiator plant inside the car plants at oshawa, had to walk thru the rad plant to get from Plant 1 to Plant 2.

[Kenneth T.]

Re: Delco-Remy w /Aluminum rear?

Ken-----

GM #1108427 is a 1970 model year starter. The date on yours, August 28, 1969, would be consistent with that. As I mentioned, the nose piece and standard torque configuration are consistent with the starter part number. However, it's possible that the end plate has been replaced. If it's been through a commercial rebuilding operation, most sorts of re-configuration are possible. In that case, it's possible that it's just by happenstance that it has the same configuration nose as it was originally built with. Is this supposed to be an NOS piece or might it have been through a commercial rebuilding operation?

Joe,

It was represented to me as a very late '69 or early '70. I was led to believe it came from an original car. That was my interest and why I posted it. Anytime I see something I have never seen before, I try to share it .

Ken

[John P.]

Re: Delco-Remy w /Aluminum rear?

At the least,this starter does not meet the standard of typical factory production. I dont believe a starter in this configuration could have been delivered from the factory in 1969.

[Terry M.]

Re: Delco-Remy w /Aluminum rear?

Has anyone seen a Delco starter with an aluminum rear cover in a Corvette?
This one is made by McKinnion of Canada.

I have read the archives and McKinnion was a supplier for GM and the JG also states it, but I have not seen a starter with type of rear cover.

It is an 1108427, small block auto trans unit.

Ken

FWIW I offer this sighting from many sleeps ago:

194671S103926 E14 V1201CJK 1108427 0C23 McKinnon Industries

and NO, I have no idea what the end frame looked like on the above listed starter. BTW: Original owner claimed the starter was never changed, but the date is farther out than I would expect.

I think like the 3970014 cylinder case that was cast in Tonawanda and machined and assembled in Flint, there was a desire to maintain, or occasionally prove, alternate supply channels. Since our interest is Corvette we only see a small part of the results of that program. Now sell that theory to the guys judging your car. Good luck.

[Patrick H.]

Re: Delco-Remy w /Aluminum rear?

I think like the 3970014 cylinder case that was cast in Tonawanda and machined and assembled in Flint, there was a desire to maintain, or occasionally prove, alternate supply channels. Since our interest is Corvette we only see a small part of the results of that program. Now sell that theory to the guys judging your car. Good luck.

Hey, I gots one of those!

[John H.]

Re: Delco-Remy w /Aluminum rear?

McKinnon engines were supplied primarily to Oshawa and Ste. Therese, but they also went to the northeastern GM assembly plants (Tarrytown, Framingham, etc.); don't know about the distribution of their other component products.