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  • Twan B.
    Very Frequent User
    • June 30, 2005
    • 207

    waterpump pulley '65

    my fan was out of ballance so i decide to take the fan and pulley off. Regarding the technical manual it is the correct one for my L75.
    When i was inspecting the pulley (it was ok) i notice that there are the numbers 3850680-- stamped in.
    Is this pulley a rep.?
    Twan
    #44079
  • Jack H.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 1, 1990
    • 9906

    #2
    Re: waterpump pulley '65

    It's pretty common for GM to emboss pulleys for visual ID/verification. Your copy of the AIM cites what was factory original and the water pump pulley changed with engine configuration/options.

    The base and L75 engines share the same pulley (3744043) which differs from what was used on L76/84 and L78. I did a quick check of my Parts and Accessory manuals (1972 and 1982) and didn't find the 3850680 pulley you cite listed as being a service replacement item.

    That doesn't mean the part wasn't considered 'correct' in periods before or after the two time snapshots I looked up. Our friend Joe Lucia can probably recite nice and correctly what's up with the pulley part number you have in-hand...

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    • Mike G.
      Expired
      • January 1, 1991
      • 418

      #3
      Do you have air conditioning?

      If so, that is the correct 2-groove water pump pulley.

      If not, take it off and sell it for no less than $100. Rare piece (ask me how I know).

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      • Joe L.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • February 1, 1988
        • 43221

        #4
        Re: waterpump pulley '65

        Originally posted by Twan Baars (44079)
        my fan was out of ballance so i decide to take the fan and pulley off. Regarding the technical manual it is the correct one for my L75.
        When i was inspecting the pulley (it was ok) i notice that there are the numbers 3850680-- stamped in.
        Is this pulley a rep.?
        Twan
        #44079
        Twan-----


        Is this car an original C-60 equipped car, whether it is now, or not? If so, the GM #3850680 is the correct pulley. It's also quite a rare pulley since it was used only for 1964-E66 applications and was replaced by GM #3890419 for late 1966 PRODUCTION and for SERVICE in June, 1966.

        The GM #3850680 pulley was also used for several other 64-66 passenger car applications but all of these were rather uncommon.
        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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        • Twan B.
          Very Frequent User
          • June 30, 2005
          • 207

          #5
          Re: waterpump pulley '65

          Thanks for the respons, Jack and Mike, it is a 2 groove stamped steel pulley regarding the NCRS manual it is correct for my non air L75 Corvette. The cars with air do have a 1 groove pulley (regarding the manual).

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          • Twan B.
            Very Frequent User
            • June 30, 2005
            • 207

            #6
            Re: waterpump pulley '65

            Thanks Joe, This is the reason a joined the NCRS, people know what they talking about!
            Gr. Twan

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            • Mike G.
              Expired
              • January 1, 1991
              • 418

              #7
              Twan - where are you getting that info?

              A non-A/C '65 L75 has a single groove WP pulley, p/n 3790356. There's no need for a second groove unless there's an A/C compressor on the engine.

              That double groove pulley that you have is for an A/C car. It's called out in the AIM under option C60.

              What NCRS manual are you referring to? If it says that 3850680 is for a non-A/C car, then it is wrong.

              The good news is that you have a very hard-to-find pulley that's worth a few bucks.

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              • Twan B.
                Very Frequent User
                • June 30, 2005
                • 207

                #8
                Re: waterpump pulley '65

                Hi Mike!
                Regarding to the 1965 NCRS Technical Information manual page 117, Fifth Edition, Small block water pump pulley: Base Engine and L75 300HP: The standard water pump pulley is stamped steel with a double belt groove. there are no ### regarding to the manual.
                Gr. Twan

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                • Joe L.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • February 1, 1988
                  • 43221

                  #9
                  Re: waterpump pulley '65

                  Originally posted by Twan Baars (44079)
                  Hi Mike!
                  Regarding to the 1965 NCRS Technical Information manual page 117, Fifth Edition, Small block water pump pulley: Base Engine and L75 300HP: The standard water pump pulley is stamped steel with a double belt groove. there are no ### regarding to the manual.
                  Gr. Twan
                  Twan-----


                  GM says that the waterpump pulley used for 1965 base and L-75 engines without C-60 was GM #3790356. I have conflicting information on the groove count of this pulley, though. The AIM depicts a single groove pulley. GMSPO says it was a double groove pulley. I don't know why a double groove pulley would have been required for this application, though, and GM rarely used pullies in PRODUCTION with unused grooves.
                  In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                  • Mike G.
                    Expired
                    • January 1, 1991
                    • 418

                    #10
                    Photos in Dobbins and Adams show

                    a 2 groove pulley on non A/C L75's, both 1964 and 1965. Aft groove is unused.

                    So as long as your belts all line up --looks like you're "money"!

                    Cheers! Mike

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                    • William G.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • April 1, 1978
                      • 154

                      #11
                      Re: waterpump pulley '65

                      I have a 65 300hp with air and looking in garage to find.
                      Could someone post a picture of 3850680 water pump
                      pully
                      Thanks
                      BILL

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                      • Jack H.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • April 1, 1990
                        • 9906

                        #12
                        Re: waterpump pulley '65

                        I think the thread was focused on the PULLEY that attached to the water pump and not on the water pump itself with respect to embossed PN...

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                        • Mike G.
                          Expired
                          • January 1, 1991
                          • 418

                          #13
                          Re: waterpump pulley '65



                          Here it is. OD is 6.25". 3850680
                          Last edited by Mike G.; August 24, 2009, 06:55 PM. Reason: added p/n

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                          • Joe L.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • February 1, 1988
                            • 43221

                            #14
                            Re: waterpump pulley '65

                            Does anyone have a GM #3790356 they could post a photo(s) of?
                            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                            • Wayne M.
                              Expired
                              • March 1, 1980
                              • 6414

                              #15
                              Re: waterpump pulley '65

                              Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                              Twan-----


                              GM says that the waterpump pulley used for 1965 base and L-75 engines without C-60 was GM #3790356. I have conflicting information on the groove count of this pulley, though. The AIM depicts a single groove pulley. GMSPO says it was a double groove pulley. I don't know why a double groove pulley would have been required for this application, though, and GM rarely used pullies in PRODUCTION with unused grooves.
                              Joe -- a little more on the GM P&A info on this '356' pulley: my Rev. July 1 1965 does not mention groove count but shows that it is used on a TON of Chevrolet vehicles.

                              In my Rev 1 Jan 1970 P&A30B catalog, it shows for '63-6 Corvette exc. Sp.H/Perf, or air. It is described as DOUBLE groove, 7_3/32" OD, and (is supposedly) stamped with the part #.

                              1970 Catalog says also used for '66 Corvette w/A.I.R. (327) exc. C.A.C., Sp. H/Per.
                              Last edited by Wayne M.; August 24, 2009, 08:38 PM.

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