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  • William T.
    Infrequent User
    • April 1, 1985
    • 12

    Title history searches in NY, PA and Canada..

    Has anyone tried to request a title history search in Penn, New York or Canada lately? I've tried a search in NY- with the proper forms and documents- very tedious- with no results! Thanks in advance for your help.
  • Patrick T.
    Expired
    • September 30, 1999
    • 1286

    #2
    Re: Title history searches in NY, PA and Canada..

    The Pennsylvania DMV only goes back 10 years, I've tried with no luck. So the best you can do is get what they have back to 1999. PT

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    • Norm B.
      Very Frequent User
      • February 1, 1988
      • 360

      #3
      Re: Title history searches in NY, PA and Canada..

      In Ontario you can get a vehicle history, called an abstract, or you can get a docuement called a UVIP (Used Vehicle Information Package). Last April my son-in-law was looking at a 78 Corvette that was about 6 hours away. One of the pcitures the owner sent just happened to have the tag number visible. Before embarking on a 6 hour trip I got the UVIP for that tag number at a licence office for $20. It listed the current registered owner with address, every previous owner but only their municipality, and also the original dealer. In this case the car had been in Ontario all its life so luckily we have a complete list of previous owners.....all 10 of them! If you have the VIN number that can also be used to obtain the UVIP and is actually better in case someone switched tags.

      I am not sure but you may be able to get one through the Ontario Ministry of Transportation website. That website can be a little onerous but give it a try.

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      • William T.
        Infrequent User
        • April 1, 1985
        • 12

        #4
        Re: Title history searches in NY, PA and Canada..

        Thanks for your reply. I have a PA title from 1995. So, that means I'm out of luck!

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        • William T.
          Infrequent User
          • April 1, 1985
          • 12

          #5
          Re: Title history searches in NY, PA and Canada..

          Norm- the last Canadian owner was in the year 1999. Will Canada send information to a U.S. citizen? What do you think?

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          • Valeria H.
            Very Frequent User
            • July 27, 2009
            • 463

            #6
            Re: Title history searches in NY, PA and Canada..

            That is terrible news about PA. I just sent in the notorized paperwork several days ago to get a dupLicate title and start a title history search on my car.
            Valeria
            Valeria Hutchinson
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            • Norm B.
              Very Frequent User
              • February 1, 1988
              • 360

              #7
              Re: Title history searches in NY, PA and Canada..

              William,

              Not sure about who the MTO will or will not send information to. When I got the one for my son-in-law it was at a vending machine called a Service Ontario Kiosk at a local mall. All I needed was the tag number and a credit card to pay for it. Obviously that meant absolutely no control over who got the info. I understand that this docuement is no longer available through this machine but I was told at an issuing office that it is only for the reason it ate up too much paper and ink therefore the machines required more servicing than was warranted. You now have to go to an issuing office but like I said in me reply, you may still be able to order off the internet, I have just not had the opportunity to try the internet. I assume that if you walk into an issuing office and give them either the tag number or the VIN number and ask for a UVIP all they will be concerned about is getting the $20 from you.

              Just remember that Canada is like the U.S. Here it's all provincial records just like it is state records there. This UVIP only covers ownership in Ontario. Each province will have its own rules and procedures.

              Norm
              Golf is for those who can't play​ hockey.

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              • Roger P.
                Expired
                • February 25, 2009
                • 354

                #8
                Re: Title history searches in NY, PA and Canada..

                Good evening:
                I recently did a title search in a few states - including PA - in an attempt to find previous owners of my '65 convertible. As Patrick mentioned, many states keep records for only 10 years, while others keep them for as many as 50 years. When I contacted PA-DMV, they told me that although they typically keep records for 10 years, it is possible that they may have some records on microfilm that are much older. For $ 10.00, I figured it was worth a try (it's been about 3 weeks and I'm still waiting for their envelope in the mail). Maryland also took about 3 weeks to respond, but they came up with records for me that went back to 1972 -- and that was only because the car was in PA before then. OK, so that sounds very exciting! However, due to the Privacy Act of 199?, when they send you the copies of the titles, etc., all the owners names and addresses will be "blanked" out (not legible) . Does that really help us? Of course not! In reality, all the title copies that I received were basically useless. By chance, I got very lucky and was able to track down the second owner's name & phone number... YES !! I was very fortunate and recently spoke to him and, with a little more luck, hope to locate the original owner and the PA Chevrolet dealership that sold the car new in 1965. Now it's sounding exciting again! The second owner told me a very interesting story about how he bought the car, and how it sat in his parent's garage being infrequently used for 12 years due to college and then getting married. He regrettably sold the car with only 24,000 miles in 1984! I really enjoy learning of my car's history, and wish you all similar results.

                Good luck,
                Roger (50141)

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                • Michael W.
                  Expired
                  • April 1, 1997
                  • 4290

                  #9
                  Re: Title history searches in NY, PA and Canada..

                  Originally posted by William Tessmer (8647)
                  Norm- the last Canadian owner was in the year 1999. Will Canada send information to a U.S. citizen? What do you think?
                  Where in Canada? We do not have a 'National' registration system, terms change from province to province.

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                  • William G.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • January 1, 1988
                    • 220

                    #10
                    Re: Title history searches in NY, PA and Canada..

                    If your Corvette was originally imported into Canada as a new car, GM has original records on file and will send them to you for about $40.
                    Go to http://www.gm.ca/gm/english/shopping/parts/vintage if you think you have a car that was imported into Canada as a new car, even if it was later exported back to the US.
                    Bill Gould Auto Ancestry

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                    • Michael W.
                      Expired
                      • April 1, 1997
                      • 4290

                      #11
                      Re: Title history searches in NY, PA and Canada..

                      Originally posted by William Gould (12425)
                      If your Corvette was originally imported into Canada as a new car, GM has original records on file and will send them to you for about $40.
                      Go to http://www.gm.ca/gm/english/shopping/parts/vintage if you think you have a car that was imported into Canada as a new car, even if it was later exported back to the US.
                      Bill Gould Auto Ancestry
                      This will tell you original selling dealer, bit not original purchaser.

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                      • William G.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • January 1, 1988
                        • 220

                        #12
                        Re: Title history searches in NY, PA and Canada..

                        Michael, You are correct that the Canadaian documents won't tell you the original purchaser but often the identity and location of the original dealer will tell you the area of the original purchaser. That's another piece of the puzzle, and will allow you to start searching in that area. Now you have the ability to hunt for former owners of the company, former salespeople,employees, local Corvette clubs, and motorheads in that area. A few months ago I found the original salesman for a 66 Corvette who had his original sales notebook ($86 commission) that contained the name and address of the original purchaser of the car. I started with the name of the dealer and a few other facts supplied by a friend. So although the Canadian documents won't tell the original purchaser, they can ultimately help to lead you to him.

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                        • Matthew M.
                          Expired
                          • January 6, 2009
                          • 46

                          #13
                          Re: Title history searches in NY, PA and Canada..

                          I spend a good hour each day at the lic office here in Ontario, you should have no problem getting a UVIP, they are mandatory for title trans on private sales. Let me know if you need a hand I will ask some ?'s for you next time I do Licensing.

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                          • Tom M.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • August 31, 2000
                            • 231

                            #14
                            Re: Title history searches in NY, PA and Canada..

                            Mattew,

                            If there is a website for it could you ask? I also have a ex-Canadian car, but don't know if it was originally sold there.

                            Tom M
                            Originally posted by Matthew Miller (49836)
                            I spend a good hour each day at the lic office here in Ontario, you should have no problem getting a UVIP, they are mandatory for title trans on private sales. Let me know if you need a hand I will ask some ?'s for you next time I do Licensing.

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                            • Michael W.
                              Expired
                              • April 1, 1997
                              • 4290

                              #15
                              Re: Title history searches in NY, PA and Canada..

                              Originally posted by William Gould (12425)
                              Michael, You are correct that the Canadaian documents won't tell you the original purchaser but often the identity and location of the original dealer will tell you the area of the original purchaser. That's another piece of the puzzle, and will allow you to start searching in that area. Now you have the ability to hunt for former owners of the company, former salespeople,employees, local Corvette clubs, and motorheads in that area. A few months ago I found the original salesman for a 66 Corvette who had his original sales notebook ($86 commission) that contained the name and address of the original purchaser of the car. I started with the name of the dealer and a few other facts supplied by a friend. So although the Canadian documents won't tell the original purchaser, they can ultimately help to lead you to him.
                              All very good points, my post was simply to help calibrate the OP's expectations. My own car has spent all it's life in Canada. In 1998 I had the chance to visit the original selling dealer near Toronto and learned that had I visited only a few months earlier, would have met the franchise owner who handled all Corvette sales back in the day. He had retired and passed on in a very short period of time and unfortunately no paperwork had been retained.

                              On the other hand, I am fortunate in knowing both previous owners.

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