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  • Ronald M.
    Frequent User
    • August 31, 1999
    • 44

    'Reproduction' Power Brake Master Cylinder

    Has anyone had the opportunity to check out the 'reproduction' power brake master cylinders (for both 65 & 66) being offered by Ecklers yet?

    http://www.ecklers.com/product.asp?p...2&dept_id=1672#

    Ron Myers
    '66 roadster
    Ron Myers
    '66 Roadster
  • Larry M.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • January 1, 1992
    • 2691

    #2
    Re: 'Reproduction' Power Brake Master Cylinder

    Originally posted by Ronald Myers (32913)
    Has anyone had the opportunity to check out the 'reproduction' power brake master cylinders (for both 65 & 66) being offered by Ecklers yet?

    http://www.ecklers.com/product.asp?p...2&dept_id=1672#

    Ron Myers
    '66 roadster

    Ron:

    They are likely manufacturered by Corvette Stainless Steel Brakes in Florida. http://www.cssbinc.com

    May want to call either Ecklers or CSSB to confirm. CSSB has been around for quite a few years. I have not heard of any complaints.

    Larry

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    • Page C.
      Very Frequent User
      • February 1, 1979
      • 802

      #3
      Re: 'Reproduction' Power Brake Master Cylinder

      Rumor has been that GM was not going of license any more brake related reproduction parts.
      Regards,
      Page Campbell

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      • Francis F.
        Very Frequent User
        • April 1, 1978
        • 420

        #4
        Re: 'Reproduction' Power Brake Master Cylinder

        All I can say is make sure it has the two bleeder
        valves on the side.Most i've seen do not have
        them....
        Francis

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        • Dick W.
          Former NCRS Director Region IV
          • June 30, 1985
          • 10483

          #5
          Re: 'Reproduction' Power Brake Master Cylinder

          Originally posted by Francis Ford (1888)
          All I can say is make sure it has the two bleeder
          valves on the side.Most i've seen do not have
          them....
          Francis
          1965 and 1966 do not have bleeder valves Francis. The GM reproduction master cylinders that CSSB has for 1967-72 do have the bleeder valves and the casting #'s and logo
          Dick Whittington

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          • Francis F.
            Very Frequent User
            • April 1, 1978
            • 420

            #6
            Re: 'Reproduction' Power Brake Master Cylinder

            Here is where I beg to differ with you.
            I have a 66 late car w/orig master cyl.
            car ser. 231**.Ive owned since 1978.
            It's got the 2 bleeders.

            Francis

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            • Bill C.
              Very Frequent User
              • May 31, 1989
              • 424

              #7
              Re: 'Reproduction' Power Brake Master Cylinder

              Originally posted by Francis Ford (1888)
              Here is where I beg to differ with you.
              I have a 66 late car w/orig master cyl.
              car ser. 231**.Ive owned since 1978.
              It's got the 2 bleeders.

              Francis
              Ouch,
              If you have bleeders, you either do not have the correct unit, or someone has added them, which I have never seen done and neither do I think it would be possible, not enough material in the casting to work with. Keep in mind, even though you have owned it for quite a long time, it was already 12 years old when you did. That was a very long time in car years back then! And back then most were not concerned with "originality" Just function.

              Compare yours to a photo of any 65-6 ONLY power brake master cylinder.

              These repo masters do NOT have the delco logo, neither do I see some of all the other characteristics that are on the originals. The manufacturer indicates this is his first run, unlicensed by GM at a $399 cost to you. They indicate that they anticipate getting the license in the future and will be adding the logo and that the cost will then be $799.00 !!

              They seem to be in much rush to get these to market and sold by telling all of the doubling of the price coming.

              I think we will need to watch the track record on these potential "prototypes" before passing judgement but as with all repo stuff, wonder if they will be serviceable? I know the repo boosters are not, but for the cost, just throwing it away and getting a new one is cheaper than rebuilding and replating an original.
              But at least they all function the same. In my experience, every repo booster I install has a different "feel" to it. May not matter to the individual owner but it indicates something to me.
              I am certain anyone knowledgeable will be able to easily distinguish these first run 65-66 power brake master cylinders and the one coming for a real one, and for just a few more $$ an original can be had, all rebuilt and sleeved and guaranteed for life. But, there will be a market for these, just as there has been for the repo boosters, for some, its good enough. Just as cubic zerconia is good enough for some.
              I plan on ordering one just to compare and will post my observations after receiving it, they may be on display in Carlisle also!
              Last edited by Bill C.; August 15, 2009, 04:37 PM.

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              • John H.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • December 1, 1997
                • 16513

                #8
                Re: 'Reproduction' Power Brake Master Cylinder

                Originally posted by Francis Ford (1888)
                Here is where I beg to differ with you.
                I have a 66 late car w/orig master cyl.
                car ser. 231**.Ive owned since 1978.
                It's got the 2 bleeders.

                Francis
                Francis -

                Photo below is the '66 J50 master cylinder - they had no bleeders.
                Attached Files

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                • Dick W.
                  Former NCRS Director Region IV
                  • June 30, 1985
                  • 10483

                  #9
                  Re: 'Reproduction' Power Brake Master Cylinder

                  The reproduction master cylinders have been in circulation since the late '80's or early '90's. I sold a ton of them, when I had the Corvette parts business, for $500 and up. There is a very subtle difference, but usually not detectable on the judging field. They function exactly as original
                  Dick Whittington

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                  • William G.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • April 1, 1978
                    • 154

                    #10
                    Re: 'Reproduction' Power Brake Master Cylinder

                    I agree,there were no bleeders
                    I have a original 65 master cylinder that i would like
                    to have rebuilt.
                    Who do you recommend.
                    bill

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                    • Tom M.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • August 31, 2000
                      • 231

                      #11
                      Re: 'Reproduction' Power Brake Master Cylinder

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                      • Bill C.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • May 31, 1989
                        • 424

                        #12
                        Re: 'Reproduction' Power Brake Master Cylinder

                        Originally posted by Tom McCabe (34756)
                        I will second them, they have done dozens of sleeves for me, excellent work, reasonable,fast. They will also do the complete rebuild if you want.
                        Bill

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                        • Richard S.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • November 1, 1994
                          • 809

                          #13
                          Re: 'Reproduction' Power Brake Master Cylinder

                          I too agree....no bleeders.....My late 66 is a June 66 build, VIN: 23812. It has it's original Brake Master Cylinder and Booster....

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