'65 Spare tire

[Twan B.]

I wonder if the standard spare tire wheel that is been used in '65 is the same as the 4 other tire's or does it say: for temporarry use only.
Thanks, Twan
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[Jack H.]

Re: '65 Spare tire

The factory matched tires/wheels. If the car had a base wheel (steel) configuration, then all five were alike. If the car had optional wheels (KO), the set of five matched too.

Tires were matched too. So, all five tires were the same model and mfgr. BUT, for judging purposes, NCRS allows the spare tire to deviate from the four mounted tires without deduction penalty. That's to preserve the originality aspects of those cars that might have their factory original spare tire still intact with the four road mounted tires having been replaced over the years...

[Clark K.]

Re: '65 Spare tire

The 1965 JG (CTIM & JG) 5th edition (current) does not show any mention of a temporary tire or wheel. It is my understanding that the spare tire and wheel were exactly like the other four tires/wheels.

For example, if your car had been built at the factory with the P48 Cast Aluminum Quick-Take-Off Wheels (called knock-offs) your car would have the same 5th tire/wheel set in the spare tire carrier.

While the factory supplied a spare tire that was the same brand and size as the other four, this is NOT required in NCRS flight judging. The '65 JG calls for the four "road tires" to be matching in size, construction, and brand. It also states on page 78: "Do not deduct for a non-matching spare, which appears as original."
-Clark

[Wayne M.]

Re: '65 Spare tire

I wonder if the standard spare tire wheel that is been used in '65 is the same as the 4 other tire's or does it say: for temporarry use only.
Thanks, Twan
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Twan -- as Jack H. says, all 5 wheels (tires & rims) were identical. In fact, page 32 of your 1965 owners guide has a diagram and instructions "to rotate every 6000 miles, to distribute wear over all 5 tires".

So if someone shows up on the judging field with a brand new or barely used original spare, then, depending on the odometer, they were not following instructions , and should be heavily penalized .

[Twan B.]

Re: '65 Spare tire

Thanks everybody for the answers

Gr. twan

[Ridge K.]

Re: '65 Spare tire

Twan -- as Jack H. says, all 5 wheels (tires & rims) were identical. In fact, page 32 of your 1965 owners guide has a diagram and instructions "to rotate every 6000 miles, to distribute wear over all 5 tires".

So if someone shows up on the judging field with a brand new or barely used original spare, then, depending on the odometer, they were not following instructions , and should be heavily penalized .

Wayne, my inexperienced understanding of flight judging is that the Corvette should be presented as "left the assembly line, with normal dealer prep". Wouldn't a spare tire "as new, with normal dealer prep" be a brand new, unused tire?
I've attached a few photos of my spare, as found in the tub after 25+ years of barn storage (a 48,000 mile '67). It's a non-DOT, Firestone Super Sport 500. see tread pic....
(a.) would you, and any other judges who might want to comment, rather see this spare, or a new reproduction?
(b.) what would the "condition" deduct be, as opposed to originality points?
As always, thanks in advance for any and all commentary.
Ridge

[Jack H.]

Re: '65 Spare tire

There are additional rules in the NCRS Judging Reference Manual and one deals with abnormal tire wear which could constitute a safety issue. I'd find it, read it, and then look at the tread condition on the tire you depict playing Devil's advocate as if YOU were the judge and this was another club member's car...

[Brian M.]

Re: '65 Spare tire

I do not believe that to be an original factory issued tire, and the factory didn't put wheel weights on the front side of the rim. JMHO

Wayne, my inexperienced understanding of flight judging is that the Corvette should be presented as "left the assembly line, with normal dealer prep". Wouldn't a spare tire "as new, with normal dealer prep" be a brand new, unused tire?
I've attached a few photos of my spare, as found in the tub after 25+ years of barn storage (a 48,000 mile '67). It's a non-DOT, Firestone Super Sport 500. see tread pic....
(a.) would you, and any other judges who might want to comment, rather see this spare, or a new reproduction?
(b.) what would the "condition" deduct be, as opposed to originality points?
As always, thanks in advance for any and all commentary.
Ridge

[Ridge K.]

Re: '65 Spare tire

Brian and Jack, thanks for the comments.
This tire may have been an "early replacement"..
Thanks again, Ridge

[Twan B.]

Re: '65 Spare tire

Thanks a lot for the response. So if i'am right, the spare will be the same as the other wheels (tire's)???
Gr. Twan

[John H.]

Re: '65 Spare tire

Thanks a lot for the response. So if i'am right, the spare will be the same as the other wheels (tire's)???
Gr. Twan

Twan -

The spare WHEEL will be the same type as the four mounted on the car, but the spare TIRE doesn't have to match the brand/type of the four on the road wheels. The spare TIRE stands on its own, and is judged based on the same criteria used to judge the road tires.