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  • Terry M.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • September 30, 1980
    • 15583

    #16
    Re: 1972 small block 3991399 to 330813 water pump changeover

    Patrick,
    Since the water pump was installed on engine assembly at Flint, I suggest you would be better served tracking the water pump casting date against the engine assembly date. That would eleminate the time lag for pulling the engine from stock at St. Louis.
    Terry

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    • Patrick H.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • November 30, 1989
      • 11616

      #17
      Re: 1972 small block 3991399 to 330813 water pump changeover

      Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
      Patrick,
      Since the water pump was installed on engine assembly at Flint, I suggest you would be better served tracking the water pump casting date against the engine assembly date. That would eleminate the time lag for pulling the engine from stock at St. Louis.
      Actually what I'm looking for is ANY 72 with a 330813 casting. Once I know that, I'll also check closer. In the meantime I'll ask Ed since he's the only one close - other than my car, which won't help.

      Patrick
      Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
      71 "deer modified" coupe
      72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
      2008 coupe
      Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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      • Patrick H.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • November 30, 1989
        • 11616

        #18
        Re: 1972 small block 3991399 to 330813 water pump changeover

        Originally posted by Edward Johnson (49497)
        Pat. Casting Date Is C82 And Part No. Is 3991399. I Got A Better Look W/ The Pulleys Out Of The Way.
        Thanks Ed!

        Any chance you know your engine assembly date, as Terry notes below?
        Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
        71 "deer modified" coupe
        72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
        2008 coupe
        Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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        • Edward J.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • September 15, 2008
          • 6940

          #19
          Re: 1972 small block 3991399 to 330813 water pump changeover

          Pat, The Casting Date On Rear Of Engine Block Is C17
          New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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          • Harmon C.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • August 31, 1994
            • 3228

            #20
            Re: 1972 small block 3991399 to 330813 water pump changeover

            Originally posted by Don Lowe (44382)
            Lyle, by "square plug", do you mean the one in the attached pic? I recently removed this pump and replaced it with the correct 399 casting.
            Yes that is the plug and also the boss it screws into looks different than Patricks picture.
            Lyle

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            • Patrick H.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • November 30, 1989
              • 11616

              #21
              Re: 1972 small block 3991399 to 330813 water pump changeover

              Originally posted by Edward Johnson (49497)
              Pat, The Casting Date On Rear Of Engine Block Is C17
              Ed,

              And the assembly date and code on the stamp pad?
              Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
              71 "deer modified" coupe
              72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
              2008 coupe
              Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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              • Edward J.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • September 15, 2008
                • 6940

                #22
                Re: 1972 small block 3991399 to 330813 water pump changeover

                Pat, The Engine Block Stamp Pad Numbers Are Vo406ckx-12s519388, The Cars Body Build Date Is I21- April 21 Is This What You Needed?
                New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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                • Terry M.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • September 30, 1980
                  • 15583

                  #23
                  Re: 1972 small block 3991399 to 330813 water pump changeover

                  Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
                  Ed,

                  And the assembly date and code on the stamp pad?
                  Patrick:

                  By Ed Johnson, halfway up your thread, in response to one of Lyle's posts:
                  "Pat, The Engine Block Stamp Pad Numbers Are Vo406ckx-12s519388, The Cars Body Build Date Is I21- April 21 Is This What You Needed?"
                  Terry

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                  • Patrick H.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • November 30, 1989
                    • 11616

                    #24
                    Re: 1972 small block 3991399 to 330813 water pump changeover

                    Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
                    Patrick:

                    By Ed Johnson, halfway up your thread, in response to one of Lyle's posts:
                    "Pat, The Engine Block Stamp Pad Numbers Are Vo406ckx-12s519388, The Cars Body Build Date Is I21- April 21 Is This What You Needed?"
                    Yes, I saw that. He responded to me but it ended up in the wrong "thread position."
                    Note the time of the two posts.

                    Now if we could just hear from cars after 19388 it sure would be nice.
                    Last edited by Patrick H.; July 26, 2009, 02:14 PM.
                    Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                    71 "deer modified" coupe
                    72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                    2008 coupe
                    Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                    • Joe L.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • January 31, 1988
                      • 43198

                      #25
                      Re: 1972 small block 3991399 to 330813 water pump changeover

                      Originally posted by Lyle Chamberlain (24961)
                      Patrick
                      I would be interested in the data but mostly the use of the plug in the first picture. As a 73 judge I'm looking for a pipe plug with a square head and would like to know if the one in your picture could be correct for an early 73 built car built in Sept. 72 or if it was ever correct for any Corvette.

                      Lyle-----


                      I don't think the internal hex head plug was ever used in PRODUCTION on any 72-82 Corvette. I think that all were the external square head. VERY "funky" looking, but I believe that's how it was.
                      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                      • Edward J.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • September 15, 2008
                        • 6940

                        #26
                        Re: 1972 small block 3991399 to 330813 water pump changeover

                        PAT, I DONT KNOW IF MY POST MADE IT YESTERDAY BUT THE STAMP PAD ON ENGINE READS- V0406CKX 12S519388 (BODY BUILD DATE I21)apr21
                        New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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                        • Patrick H.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • November 30, 1989
                          • 11616

                          #27
                          Re: 1972 small block 3991399 to 330813 water pump changeover

                          Originally posted by Edward Johnson (49497)
                          PAT, I DONT KNOW IF MY POST MADE IT YESTERDAY BUT THE STAMP PAD ON ENGINE READS- V0406CKX 12S519388 (BODY BUILD DATE I21)apr21
                          Ed,

                          Yes, it's here.
                          Thanks!
                          Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                          71 "deer modified" coupe
                          72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                          2008 coupe
                          Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                          • Patrick H.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • November 30, 1989
                            • 11616

                            #28
                            Re: 1972 small block 3991399 to 330813 water pump changeover

                            OK, so car 19388 has a 3991399 dated C 8 2 on an engine assembled April 6th, and car 24796 has a 330813 dated D 18 2 on an engine assembled May 31st.

                            I know that there are other late 72 small blocks out there - any info?
                            Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                            71 "deer modified" coupe
                            72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                            2008 coupe
                            Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                            • Jerome P.
                              Expired
                              • October 22, 2006
                              • 607

                              #29
                              Re: 1972 small block 3991399 to 330813 water pump changeover

                              Pat, you asked about the numbers on my water pump.

                              My car is 23822 and has a 3991399 water pump dated C82. on an egine assembled April 21.

                              I wish I would of taken some pictures, but you need a camera and you know what? I left it home. If you need a picture I will try to remember the next time I go up to the garage.

                              I would be interested in your conclusion(s) when your done.

                              Let me know.

                              Thanks

                              Jerry

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                              • Patrick H.
                                Beyond Control Poster
                                • November 30, 1989
                                • 11616

                                #30
                                Re: 1972 small block 3991399 to 330813 water pump changeover

                                Originally posted by Jerome Pederson (46381)
                                Pat, you asked about the numbers on my water pump.

                                My car is 23822 and has a 3991399 water pump dated C82. on an egine assembled April 21.

                                I wish I would of taken some pictures, but you need a camera and you know what? I left it home. If you need a picture I will try to remember the next time I go up to the garage.

                                I would be interested in your conclusion(s) when your done.

                                Let me know.

                                Thanks

                                Jerry
                                Thanks.
                                That tells me that 1) the date I just bought - same as yours - would be correct for my car, 22917, and that 2) the 3991399 was used later than the JG currently lists. As Terry noted, we will have to compare engine assembly dates to water pumps.

                                If anyone else has an April or later 1972 small block, please check your water pump for me.

                                Patrick
                                Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                                71 "deer modified" coupe
                                72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                                2008 coupe
                                Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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