Award Confirmation Service

[Michael W.]

Re: Award Confirmation Service

I have no quarrel with the $300 as a 'members price'. Whether non members should pay a higher price or even be eligible to request history (at any price) is a subject of it's own, especially given the privacy issues of releasing past owner's names.

My sole question was to understand the justification behind paying the full $300 even if NCRS has never seen the car. I do agree it seems excessive and that a lesser fee would be more appropriate. If this service was intended partially to encourage more new members to come into the fold, this is not a very attractive incentive.

I doubt it will be solved here, this is the tech board.

[Brian M.]

Re: Award Confirmation Service

My car has been judged 5 x's since I've owned it, never prior to my ownership, I would like to have an Award Confirmation document but I'm not paying $300.00 for what I already know.

[Clark K.]

Re: Award Confirmation Service

waste money in my opinion, do your own homework and save the cash for the car.

Last January, I asked the same question as the thread originator. I had recently bought a '65 Red/red A/C L76 coupe from a well-known dealer. The dealer had no information on previous owners or of any prior Flight judging. I noticed the NCRS service in question but thought the $300 was steep. I wrote an e-mail to find out if any money was refunded if NCRS found no record. I was told that the fee would not be refunded since the fee covers the search, whether there are any records, or not.

Believe me, if your car had ever been a Top Flight car, the dealer/seller would have told you. From what I understand from my discussions with NCRS officials over this issue, any previous owner contact information is redacted, anyway. You only get previous Flight judging information, if any. I decided to put the $300 into the car and had it chapter Flight judged laat April. The car scored 96.3% and I took home the "coveted NCRS blue rosette". -Clark

[Chris W.]

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Chris, you can e-mail or call the National Judging Chairman with your question. As you can see I've been a Member for a while and also have contributed countless non-paid hours to NCRS as have many other Members. Good luck with your pursuit of the '65. Best, Gary....

Gary;

Please understand, I am in no way questioning all the time and effort you have put into NCRS. It is people like you that have made the club what it is today. I was mainly trying to get a clarification of the Policy on this subject.

NCRS should not give out this sort of information free to all, but as a member, I feel if a member orders a search, and pays the $300.00, and the data Base comes up with nothing, then that member should get some sort of refund. In my case, I am not trying to varify past awards or judging results, I am just trying to find out if there is any information in the Data Base on my car. If so, I would be more then happy to find out what it was, which hopefully would include the owners name, meet location and dates. If I paid my $300.00 and NCRS comes back to me with only one old result for a Third Flight or what ever, Thats fine. but to come back with a "NO" answer and keep all of my $300.00 is a little tough.

I strongly feel Non-Members are a completely different question. I think if anything, they should pay more then members for the same services. After all, it is the members who, thru the years, have supported the Club and Non-Members should not get the same consideration as members.

I also strongly feel NCRS should not defend policy to Non-Members. Why should we? If a Non-Member does not like a certain policy of NCRS, TOUGH.

After reading comments posted on this forum and another Corvette Forum, I am definately not alone as to my thoughts on this subject.

Again, Thanks for your response and I will proceed and contact the National Judging Chairman.

Take Care,

Chris.

[Jean C.]

Re: Award Confirmation Service

I had figured that if a cursory review of NCRS Flight records indicated "no record", the $300 fee would not apply; however, if the car was indeed in our records and a "report" (whatever form that takes) was issued, the $300 was payable. Reckon I was mistaken.

Seems to me that we should have a price structure for this service that in some way takes the aforementioned scenario into consideration ($25 for yes/no, $300 for the whole enchilada ???) plus gives consideration to the NCRS member vs. non-member idea. I realize this requires additional admin work by Roy but seems equitable to our overall membership.

JMHO.

Best regards,

[Chris W.]

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I had figured that if a cursory review of NCRS Flight records indicated "no record", the $300 fee would not apply; however, if the car was indeed in our records and a "report" (whatever form that takes) was issued, the $300 was payable. Reckon I was mistaken.

Seems to me that we should have a price structure for this service that in some way takes the aforementioned scenario into consideration ($25 for yes/no, $300 for the whole enchilada ???) plus gives consideration to the NCRS member vs. non-member idea. I realize this requires additional admin work by Roy but seems equitable to our overall membership.

JMHO.

Best regards,

Charlie,

I think you are definately on the right track.

I would like to suggest that a Member could order the service AND pay up-front the full $300.00 Fee. If there were no "Hits" and the answer came back "NO", then he would get a refund of his fee minus a $25.00 or $50.00 "Service Charge. I think a member should be willing to buy the whole Enchilada if there is an Enchilada, no matter how small it may be.

I am not sure this should apply to Non-Members. Frankly, I feel Non-members should pay more.

My "On going" Thoughts,



Chris.

[Jack H.]

Re: Award Confirmation Service

I'm not sure what it means to 'suggest' club policy on the Technical Discussion Board...

Club policy is set through the political process: get the item scheduled as a BoD (Board of Directors) consideration item and have it voted up/down into existance...

So, the place to go is through your respective Regional Director(s) versus 'voting' on things in this forum.

[Chris W.]

Re: Award Confirmation Service

I'm not sure what it means to 'suggest' club policy on the Technical Discussion Board...

Club policy is set through the political process: get the item scheduled as a BoD (Board of Directors) consideration item and have it voted up/down into existance...

So, the place to go is through your respective Regional Director(s) versus 'voting' on things in this forum.

Jack,

Actually, it does not means anything except to get feedback on ideas, and may be assist in "formulating" a proposal to the BoD. If a person comes up with something that is way out in Left Field, he will soon find that out, however, if a person comes up with a good idea, he will find that out too.

Regards, Chris

[Jack H.]

Re: Award Confirmation Service

Gotcha! There's no harm there...

My comment was directed to some who think a post here is a direct input to club's political/governing process. I just wanted to make it clear that's not the case...

[Chris W.]

Re: Award Confirmation Service

Gotcha! There's no harm there...

My comment was directed to some who think a post here is a direct input to club's political/governing process. I just wanted to make it clear that's not the case...

Jack,

Actually, you have brought up a very good point.

I agree



Chris

[George J.]

Re: Award Confirmation Service

Maybe the club could post a list of vin numbers that they have information on. You could then contact them (and fork over the $300) to see what they have. I think that would be a pretty good advertisement. I know that if I knew they had info, it would be hard not to "order" it.

PS - I am in no way expecting this idea to make it to an official policy discussion. Unless someone else takes it there.

George