63 radiator decals

[Rainer S.]

During my recent flight judging, I lost points, due to missing inspection number decal (green 3 ?) and another one for anti-freeze related info. (white) I have the decals now, but where do the go, exactly ?
I have the Harrison foil decal on the top, pass side, the stamped insp "16CT" and the mod number stamped on top of the radiator (Whittek) on the driver side. There is no room on top of the radiator, to add any more decals...
Do I need the green number 3 decal, in addition to the 16CT stamped ?
Do I need the addn white label, and where does it go.
Is the blue Harrison decal a foil type (as I have it now) or should it be a metal decal with the same instructions ?
(My car is an early DEC 62 build)

Rainer

[Harry S.]

Re: 63 radiator decals

Rainer, I believe there is still much confusion on what was on a 63 radiator.

My belief was that the Harrison sticker was there and the green inspection sticker (not limited to the nume 3). I also believe the 16 CT white stamp did not start until 1964.

Thinking about it, I've also seen a caution sticker.

[Rainer S.]

Re: 63 radiator decals

Thanks, Harry. By the way, my radiator was made by Dewitt. Maybe I will call him, he should know. His shop is not far from me...

Rainer

[Michael H.]

Re: 63 radiator decals

Thanks, Harry. By the way, my radiator was made by Dewitt. Maybe I will call him, he should know. His shop is not far from me...

Rainer

Harry is absolutely correct. The "16CT" stamp was not used on any 63 radiator. Instead, a small transparent sticker with a green number was placed on the left side.
A separate "cooling system label" was placed on the left side and that label often covered, or almost covered, the small transparent sticker.

The small transparent sticker was applied at Harrison and the white paper label was applied on the St Louis assy line.

For an early car, the Harrison plate on the right side would be the thick design. The thin foil Harrison sticker wouldn't be used until some time around mid 63 production.

[Stuart F.]

Re: 63 radiator decals

I've seen the white paper instruction label cover up the date stamp on a number of 63's. Also, those paper labels don't last very long - I'm on my third or fourth one, and each time I replace it I try to position it better so as to not cover my date code w/o success.

Stu Fox

[Timothy B.]

Re: 63 radiator decals

I thought the white paper label went on the expansion tank for a early 63 car.

[Michael H.]

Re: 63 radiator decals

I thought the white paper label went on the expansion tank for a early 63 car.

Actually, there's a white paper label on both the supply tank AND the radiator for early 63.
I don't know where the story came from about "no white label on the radiator for early 63" but it's been floating around for years.
Here's a pic of a new early production 63 from a May 1963 Road & Track magazine road test. The car is obviously very early production because of the black oil filler tube/cap, dipstick and many other early features. Probably in the 2500-3000 VIN range.
There is a white paper label on the supply tank and radiator. Also, there is a small clear inspection sticker with number that is partially covered by the white paper warning label. (difficult to see in this photo)

[Stuart F.]

Re: 63 radiator decals

Also noted in your picture, Michael, the hose from the supply tank to the radiator is the shorter version which ran inside the hood strut. Hose was lengthened and run out side the strut around AIM 01/29/63, or Ser. No, 8,000.

Stu Fox

[John D.]

Re: 63 radiator decals

Michael, You would think a 2500-3000 Serial number 63 would have a plenum lid flag. I realize that a few of the earlier models did not.

My Feb-March 63 car also got dinged because the 63B radiator has a thin foil tag instead of the thicker Harrison plate which is readily available for 10.0O
Interesting that the 16CT was not used on any 63. I didn't know that before. Thanks, JD

[Rainer S.]

Re: 63 radiator decals

I will remove the white stamp 16CT and add the decal #3 as well as the white decal with info for the "Caution - Filler cap must be tight..." on the left side of the radiator. (or should decal go on the expansion tank, since it makes reference to the filler cap and what not to fill it with) Also, I will replace the Harrison foils decal on the right side with the plate type.
Had it in my hand when I was at Paragon last week, trying to sort out the issues.
Thanks, everyone for your help.

Rainer

[Michael H.]

Re: 63 radiator decals

I will remove the white stamp 16CT and add the decal #3 as well as the white decal with info for the "Caution - Filler cap must be tight..." on the left side of the radiator. (or should decal go on the expansion tank, Rainer

Rainer,

There's actually a white sticker on the radiator AND the supply/expansion tank.
I cropped and enlarged just the areas in question from the original 8X10 photo. (below)
I can't read anything at all on the sticker that's on the supply tank but I can read the word Caution on the radiator sticker.
The part numbers are shown in the AIM but if I remember correctly, the original numbers and sticker locations were changed some time during the 63 run so the info isn't much help.

[Rainer S.]

Re: 63 radiator decals

I wonder if the sticker, that goes on the exp tank is the same sticker as the one that goes on the radiator ?
The one on the radiator, which shows pretty good on your pic, is the same I have from Paragon. i can also see the number decal slightly covered up by the white sticker. So I am good on the radiator. I will get another one, and stick it on the exp tank, along with the #8 decal on the exp tank.
One final question: should the green number decall on the exp tank be the same as on the radiator, like 3 and 3 ? or could it be 3 on rad and 8 on exp tank ?
(Amazing, how many questions some silly insp stickers/decals can
raise... )


Rainer

[Michael H.]

Re: 63 radiator decals

I wonder if the sticker, that goes on the exp tank is the same sticker as the one that goes on the radiator ?

Just a guess but I would think that the supply tank label would be different than the label on the radiator. It looks like it's the short, or narrow design but it's difficult to tell in the picture.

The info that's in the AIM is confusing and incomplete so we may never know the entire story on these labels.

[Rainer S.]

Re: 63 radiator decals

I will omit the sticker on the exp tank, since I didn't loose points for that sticker. Just lost points for the one which I had missing at the radiatior.
(unless I can ident. the one on the exp tank)

Rainer

[James J.]

Re: 63 radiator decals

My 63, car #2746 has the thin foil Harrison sticker on the right side of the original radiator.
Does that mean my radiator in not original or is it that the Harrision label got changed at some time?
Is it possible that some early cars had the thin foil Harrison sticker instead of the thicker plate type.