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  • Chris E.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • November 2, 2006
    • 1322

    67 steering linkage question

    I'm wondering about the tie rods. The book says those should be semi-gloss black. How much of the tie rods are painted? Were the surface were the zerks were unpainted?

    I have a manual steering car, and it says the pitman arm is painted. Painted what color? Semi-gloss black? Mine appears to be some kind of grey finish to it.

    Also, I have what I believe are my original tie rods, and they have zerk fittings. Is that correct?
    Chris Enstrom
    North Central Chapter Judging Chairman
    1967 Rally Red convertible, 327/350, 4 speed, Duntov @ Hampton in 2013, Founders @ KC in 2014, family owned since 1973
    2011 Z06, red/red
  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • January 31, 1988
    • 43191

    #2
    Re: 67 steering linkage question

    Originally posted by Chris Enstrom (46481)
    I'm wondering about the tie rods. The book says those should be semi-gloss black. How much of the tie rods are painted? Were the surface were the zerks were unpainted?

    I have a manual steering car, and it says the pitman arm is painted. Painted what color? Semi-gloss black? Mine appears to be some kind of grey finish to it.

    Also, I have what I believe are my original tie rods, and they have zerk fittings. Is that correct?

    Chris-----


    The steering assembly was coated with a black, asphaltic coating at the manufacturing plant. The tie rod ends had cardboard tubes over the tie rod end ball studs, but the rest of the assembly was pretty much coated with the described material. The coating was more-or-less similar in semi-gloss black. However, it was really not black, at all, but was a VERY dark brown which APPEARED as black.

    The tie rod ends were originally equipped with zerk fittings.
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Stephen L.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • May 31, 1984
      • 3148

      #3
      Re: 67 steering linkage question

      Chris,
      This is my take on the tie rod assy "paint" requirements....

      The pitman arm was black with a blue marking.
      The tie rod ends were not painted on the threads and the cone shape.
      The idler arm was not painted.
      The tie rod ends had yellow "inspection marks".
      Attached Files

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      • Chris E.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • November 2, 2006
        • 1322

        #4
        Re: 67 steering linkage question

        Thanks guys, for the info.

        Steve, in the TIM/JG, is says that the idler should be natural with power steering cars, and painted with non-power steering cars.

        Yet when I scrubbed and cleaned what I believe to be my original idler arm, it doesn't APPEAR painted. I'll have to shoot a picture of it.
        Chris Enstrom
        North Central Chapter Judging Chairman
        1967 Rally Red convertible, 327/350, 4 speed, Duntov @ Hampton in 2013, Founders @ KC in 2014, family owned since 1973
        2011 Z06, red/red

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        • John H.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • November 30, 1997
          • 16513

          #5
          Re: 67 steering linkage question

          Originally posted by Chris Enstrom (46481)
          Steve, in the TIM/JG, is says that the idler should be natural with power steering cars, and painted with non-power steering cars.
          Chris -

          Actually, the JG says that the pitman arm is natural on power steering cars and painted on manual steering cars, not the idler arm (because the pitman arm was installed on the linkage at Buffalo and painted with the assembly, and the power steering pitman arm was installed in the power steering bench subassembly at St. Louis).

          The JG also says the idler arm is natural; I've submitted a change recommendation on that to show it as painted, as it was part of the painted linkage assembly at Buffalo just like the manual steering pitman arm.

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          • Chris E.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • November 2, 2006
            • 1322

            #6
            Re: 67 steering linkage question

            Ok John, thanks for the clarification on the idler. But I'm still wondering what COLOR it should be.
            Chris Enstrom
            North Central Chapter Judging Chairman
            1967 Rally Red convertible, 327/350, 4 speed, Duntov @ Hampton in 2013, Founders @ KC in 2014, family owned since 1973
            2011 Z06, red/red

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            • Stephen L.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • May 31, 1984
              • 3148

              #7
              Re: 67 steering linkage question

              John Hinckley

              Do you have a page UPC 9 A1 & A2 in your 1967 AIM? My copy does not have those pages which, I assume, show the tie rod assy installation as well as the steering box. If this assy is all preassembled from wheel to wheel on those pages then the color/paint would be all the same assuming the tie rod was painted as an assembly including both the idler and pitman arm. Those pages might still be in earlier assy manuals such as 63-66

              Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
              Chris -

              Actually, the JG says that the pitman arm is natural on power steering cars and painted on manual steering cars, not the idler arm (because the pitman arm was installed on the linkage at Buffalo and painted with the assembly, and the power steering pitman arm was installed in the power steering bench subassembly at St. Louis).

              The JG also says the idler arm is natural; I've submitted a change recommendation on that to show it as painted, as it was part of the painted linkage assembly at Buffalo just like the manual steering pitman arm.

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              • John H.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • November 30, 1997
                • 16513

                #8
                Re: 67 steering linkage question

                Originally posted by Stephen Lavigne (7553)
                John Hinckley

                Do you have a page UPC 9 A1 & A2 in your 1967 AIM? My copy does not have those pages which, I assume, show the tie rod assy installation as well as the steering box. If this assy is all preassembled from wheel to wheel on those pages then the color/paint would be all the same assuming the tie rod was painted as an assembly including both the idler and pitman arm. Those pages might still be in earlier assy manuals such as 63-66
                Steve -

                I have three different '67 AIM's, and none of them have 9-A1 or 9-A2; however, I have the '63-'64-'65-'66 AIM's too, and they all have those pages, which carried over to '67. The "relay & tie rod assembly" is the entire wheel-to-wheel steering linkage (including the pitman arm and idler arm), which was painted black as an assembly, except for the tapers and threads on the outer tie rod ends and the splined hole in the pitman arm). The N40 sections all show the St. Louis-installed pitman arm, which was a natural-finish forging, not painted.

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                • Stephen L.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • May 31, 1984
                  • 3148

                  #9
                  Re: 67 steering linkage question

                  John,

                  I kind of thought that would be the case. Could you post a copy of those pages, so all the 67 guys can update their AIM?

                  Thanks

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                  • John H.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • November 30, 1997
                    • 16513

                    #10
                    Re: 67 steering linkage question

                    Originally posted by Stephen Lavigne (7553)
                    John,

                    I kind of thought that would be the case. Could you post a copy of those pages, so all the 67 guys can update their AIM?

                    Thanks
                    Steve -

                    9-A1 is just an index sheet; here's 9-A2 from the '66 Assembly Manual. The part number for the steering linkage assembly ("relay & tie rod asm") never changed from '63 through '67, and probably carried over into '68.
                    Attached Files

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                    • Stephen L.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • May 31, 1984
                      • 3148

                      #11
                      Re: 67 steering linkage question

                      Thanks John. I'll add this page to my AIM

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                      • Joseph M.
                        Expired
                        • June 30, 1999
                        • 334

                        #12
                        Re: 67 steering linkage question

                        I'm redoing the linkage from my 67 non power steering car. Just to clarify, are the bolts, slotted nuts, clamps and cotter pins also black finish? If the nuts, bolts and clamps are not painted, what is the typical finish? Thanks.

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                        • Stephen L.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • May 31, 1984
                          • 3148

                          #13
                          Re: 67 steering linkage question

                          Joe,

                          Note the items that are called out on the AIM sheet...

                          The tie rod end taper bolt was not painted.
                          Castle nut was black (oxide?)
                          Cotter Key was natural
                          Grease zerks were natural.

                          These items were installed during suspension assembly at ST Louis.

                          As I understand it... everything else was preassembled and dipped and therefore would be black.

                          This raises a question for me. If the tie rod assy was dipped, why wasn't the idler arm black? (67 judging manual page 135 says natural) It isn't called out as an item on the AIM sheet....so I can only assume it was part of the tie rod assy.

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                          • Joseph M.
                            Expired
                            • June 30, 1999
                            • 334

                            #14
                            Re: 67 steering linkage question

                            Stephen, which bolt is the tie rod taper bolt. Are they the clamp bolts?

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                            • Stephen L.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • May 31, 1984
                              • 3148

                              #15
                              Re: 67 steering linkage question

                              Its the tapered stud that is part of the tie rod end and goes into the steering arm coming from the wheel.

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