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  • Joel T.
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    • April 30, 2005
    • 765

    1963/340 Air Cleaner Question

    This may be a dumb question... particularly given that I have owned this car for 4 years now, but here goes..

    The air cleaner base on the 1963/340 engine is chrome with cut-outs on one side... do those cut outs face front or back?

    On mine, the hose goes to the front to face the oil filler tube and the cut-outs face rear....

    I just figured out that my ignition top shield was incorrect.. is it possible that the air cleaner base is also wrong...

    Thanks,

    Joel
  • Tim S.
    Very Frequent User
    • May 31, 1990
    • 704

    #2
    Re: 1963/340 Air Cleaner Question

    It sounds like you have got it right. Have any pictures?

    Tim

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    • Stuart F.
      Expired
      • August 31, 1996
      • 4676

      #3
      Re: 1963/340 Air Cleaner Question

      The windows go to the rear on a 63 because the PCV system air tube must face front to connect with the elbow on the oil filler pipe. The 63 was unique for this and it was a source of problems which led to crankcase explosions (like mine). The tube had no flame arrestor screen and drew air directly from inside the air filter (problem was addressed in a Tech Service Bulletin dated 02/12/1963). The system actually is the reverse of later year C-2's; Clean air is drawn from inside the front of the air cleaner through the oil fill tube, passing through to the rear of the valley where it is drawn through an oil separator and connection tube/hose to the PCV valve at the base of the rear of the carburetor. The top ignition shield, when fitted properly, engages the Air Cleaner with a clip - just to interfere, not to secure it, but probably used as a ground. You can probably see most of this detailed in Nolan Adams book or other sources. The AIM just addresses the base engine details.

      Stu Fox

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      • Tom H.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • December 1, 1993
        • 3440

        #4
        Re: 1963/340 Air Cleaner Question

        Yep ! Hose front, openings rear. Sounds to me like you are good to go.

        Here's an original 63 base.

        Tom Hendricks
        Proud Member NCRS #23758
        NCM Founding Member # 1143
        Corvette Department Manager and
        Specialist for 27 years at BUDS Chevrolet.

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        • Stuart F.
          Expired
          • August 31, 1996
          • 4676

          #5
          Re: 1963/340 Air Cleaner Question

          Tom;

          Is it the picture or is that a AVS hidding under the air cleaner? The secondary is a little fuzzy. Nice shot otherwise. You can even see the clip at the rear.

          I hope you only use the foam element for show. I got tired of cleaning up the oil mess all the time. No matter how much I squeezed it out, some still managed to seep out. I know we've covered this extensively in past threads about which elements filter best, etc., but I'm still using a K&N (I know - stupid), but I bought a paper one from NAPA and have it on hand. It's just that I put the bragging sticker on the side of the air cleaner base and, well, you get the picture.

          Have a great day.

          Stu Fox

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          • Tom H.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • December 1, 1993
            • 3440

            #6
            Re: 1963/340 Air Cleaner Question

            Originally posted by Stuart Fox (28060)
            Tom;

            Is it the picture or is that a AVS hidding under the air cleaner? The secondary is a little fuzzy. Nice shot otherwise. You can even see the clip at the rear.




            Stu Fox
            Hi Stu

            Gotta plead stupid ?? What is an AVS ??
            Tom Hendricks
            Proud Member NCRS #23758
            NCM Founding Member # 1143
            Corvette Department Manager and
            Specialist for 27 years at BUDS Chevrolet.

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            • Jack H.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • April 1, 1990
              • 9906

              #7
              Re: 1963/340 Air Cleaner Question

              Local 'pet' name for Colorado's NHL hockey team...

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              • Stuart F.
                Expired
                • August 31, 1996
                • 4676

                #8
                Re: 1963/340 Air Cleaner Question

                Tom;

                The AVS carbs are very similar to the AFB, but use an adjustable spring-loaded air valve in the secondary in place of the counter-weighted version. The valve is also located above the discharge nozzles which are perforated tubes, while the AFB's have actual venturis in the secondary. On the AVS, manifold vacuum and air velocity (rather than venturi vacuum) control the secondary actuation. Choke actuation is controlled a little differently as well with a link to lock out the air valve in the secondary. Both appear similar from the casual observation, but I believe the AFB 3461S or 3721S versions are better suited to the Corvette performance engines. The AVS series is a little more sophisticated, and allows for more tuning capability. Both are available now in the Edelbrock Performer series. On your photo, it just looked like the secondary had an air valve and was why I mentioned that.

                Stu Fox

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                • Tom H.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • December 1, 1993
                  • 3440

                  #9
                  Re: 1963/340 Air Cleaner Question

                  Stu:

                  My carb is a 3461S. #3826004
                  Last edited by Tom H.; May 31, 2009, 10:29 AM.
                  Tom Hendricks
                  Proud Member NCRS #23758
                  NCM Founding Member # 1143
                  Corvette Department Manager and
                  Specialist for 27 years at BUDS Chevrolet.

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                  • Stuart F.
                    Expired
                    • August 31, 1996
                    • 4676

                    #10
                    Re: 1963/340 Air Cleaner Question

                    Just my eyes then, and I think you were just pulling my leg about the AVS series. You're too smart an experienced for me.

                    Stu Fox

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                    • Tom H.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • December 1, 1993
                      • 3440

                      #11
                      Re: 1963/340 Air Cleaner Question

                      Originally posted by Stuart Fox (28060)
                      Just my eyes then, and I think you were just pulling my leg about the AVS series. You're too smart an experienced for me.

                      Stu Fox

                      Nope, I'm dummer than I look ! I really was not familiar with the AVS term. Made me panic for a moment thinking my carb might be wrong ! Like there isn't enough wrong with my car already !!
                      Tom Hendricks
                      Proud Member NCRS #23758
                      NCM Founding Member # 1143
                      Corvette Department Manager and
                      Specialist for 27 years at BUDS Chevrolet.

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                      • Joel T.
                        Expired
                        • April 30, 2005
                        • 765

                        #12
                        Re: 1963/340 Air Cleaner Question

                        Originally posted by Tom Hendricks (23758)
                        Yep ! Hose front, openings rear. Sounds to me like you are good to go.

                        Here's an original 63 base.

                        Hi Tom;

                        Thanks for the picture... What didn't make sense to me, up until now, is that the slots are to the rear where they kinda engage with the grounding straps on the top shield. It would seem to make better sense that the slots would be forward and then the rear would make better grounding contact..but go figure...

                        I've found so many things wrong with this car over the last four years nothing would surprise me.. I'm just glad this is not one more for the list!

                        Regards,

                        Joel

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                        • Tom H.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • December 1, 1993
                          • 3440

                          #13
                          Re: 1963/340 Air Cleaner Question

                          Joel !

                          Welcome to the word of surprizes in the old car world. I find something wrong with mine every time I look at it. Good thing we've got the guys around here !
                          Tom Hendricks
                          Proud Member NCRS #23758
                          NCM Founding Member # 1143
                          Corvette Department Manager and
                          Specialist for 27 years at BUDS Chevrolet.

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                          • Stuart F.
                            Expired
                            • August 31, 1996
                            • 4676

                            #14
                            Re: 1963/340 Air Cleaner Question

                            Many years ago I ran mine with the slots (windows) forward because my oil filler tube PCV connection elbow had rolled out of the filler tube. I just used a large breather cap on the filler tube to provide the cleaned fresh air. Guess I figured a side benefit was a fan induced supercharger effect too, Ha!

                            Stu Fox

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