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  • Duke W.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • December 31, 1992
    • 15633

    #16
    Re: Interesting GM News

    Yup! AIG! Also, the UAW has backed away from demanding up to 40 percent of the "new GM", to a mere 20 percent, but that 20 percent is via a preferred stock issue that pays a nine percent annual dividend plus a note or a few hundred million.

    Boy, those guys are really willing to help out!

    It's all bull...t. I doubt if a bankruptcy judge would accept the above After all, there are LAWS that govern who gets what in a bankruptcy proceeding.

    A bankruptcy proceeding will likely give the bondholders what they are entitled to by law, the UAW contract will be dissolved, and the "new GM" can go out and hire anyone they want for whatever GM is willing to pay and what people are willing to work for. That's how I always earned a living!

    If GM offers the same pay and benefit package as the Euro and Japanese OEMs, I'm sure they'll have plenty of applicants for available jobs, and if the rank and file workers are smart, they decertify the UAW and Gettelfinger and company can go pound sand.

    Anything less, and the "new GM" will be back in bankruptcy within two years.

    Duke

    P. S. In other "bad news" I read that Treasury receipts are down by 34 percent for the first quarter. THIRTY-FOUR PERCENT! So any pipedream about a "mere" $1.75 trillion deficit is out the window. Double it! Yet the stock market continues to run on crack. Like Yogi said: "It aint over 'till it's over".
    Last edited by Duke W.; May 27, 2009, 03:17 PM.

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    • Roy B.
      Expired
      • January 31, 1975
      • 7044

      #17
      Re: Interesting GM News

      All this talk about GM is over , it will soon be history alone with Corvette . Here is your top CEO and the second top guy who will manage how the money will be spent ,and UAW will be designing those 35 MPG cars , people know that now and that's why people ant buying GM cars now! So get your new Corvette now while they LAST! (-) warranty

      PS: Or your Chrysler 300.It's already dead! & no warranty

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      • Terry M.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • September 30, 1980
        • 15583

        #18
        Re: Interesting GM News

        I have friends with Corvettes that get a real-world 31mpg. Mine only gets 27 mpg. Of course that is best-case highway. It is not that far from 35 mpg. I know some of the guys designing these cars can get there, if given the chance. I am thinking/hoping the reports of the death of the Corvette are greatly exaggerated.
        Terry

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        • Steven B.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • June 30, 1982
          • 3981

          #19
          Re: Interesting GM News

          Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
          I have friends with Corvettes that get a real-world 31mpg. Mine only gets 27 mpg. Of course that is best-case highway. It is not that far from 35 mpg. I know some of the guys designing these cars can get there, if given the chance. I am thinking/hoping the reports of the death of the Corvette are greatly exaggerated.
          I have a friend who drove his '99 manual trans. from Dallas to Chicago and got 29 at 80 mph much of the way. The newer Corvettes are incredible for HP/Torque/MPG. Hopefully someone gets to see the 100th Anniversary Edition.

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          • Clem Z.
            Expired
            • December 31, 2005
            • 9427

            #20
            Re: Interesting GM News

            the big problem for corvettes is the number they can sell and i don't see corvettes selling 35,000 units a MY like before because they are now going to cost a lot more to meet the new federal govt specs. also a lot of jobs are not going to pay the wages like they did before so a lot of corvette owners now will not be able to afford them. if the stock market does pick up big time i am driving my last new one and i have owned 11 new ones.

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            • Lou C.
              Very Frequent User
              • August 31, 1992
              • 134

              #21
              Re: Interesting GM News

              Originally posted by Jim Shea (36737)
              Note that all the talk is about the hourly workers going back to mother GM. Hourly workers getting up to $115,000 buyouts along with a $25,000 car voucher. Hourly retired workers losing their eye and hearing benefits. Not a word about what is going to happen to us salary retirees (who have already lost our health, eye, hearing, life insurance, and dental benefits).

              I am just sick as to what they are doing to us salary retirees.

              Jim
              Jim, I am an hourly GM retiree. Most of the salary guys I know feel the same way you do. I think we all just have to wait and see.
              Lou

              Any other GM guys on this board?

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              • Jack H.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • March 31, 1990
                • 9906

                #22
                Re: Interesting GM News

                Verticle integration only works when you can build the part yourself cheaper/better than a non-captive independent supplier can...

                The impact of being a union shop with existing brick & motar facilities inside the US that demand VOLUME to spread fixed costs over is a double edged sword that can/does, at times, defeat the advantage of eliminating the components supplier's internal profit margin compliment...

                It's a simple case cost accounting/economics 101!

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                • Christopher R.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • March 31, 1975
                  • 1599

                  #23
                  Re: Interesting GM News

                  Originally posted by Roy Braatz (182)[IMG
                  http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n174/55copper/ncrs/Obama-Biden.gif[/IMG]
                  Joe Biden's owned a 1967 Corvette since new.

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                  • Edward C.
                    Expired
                    • February 28, 1985
                    • 125

                    #24
                    Re: Interesting GM News

                    That is very disappointing to me. Ed

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                    • John H.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • November 30, 1997
                      • 16513

                      #25
                      Re: Interesting GM News

                      Originally posted by Jack Humphrey (17100)
                      Verticle integration only works when you can build the part yourself cheaper/better than a non-captive independent supplier can...

                      The impact of being a union shop with existing brick & motar facilities inside the US that demand VOLUME to spread fixed costs over is a double edged sword that can/does, at times, defeat the advantage of eliminating the components supplier's internal profit margin compliment...

                      It's a simple case cost accounting/economics 101!
                      Yup, VOLUME is (or was) the catalyst that made vertical integration successful; without it, the fixed costs will kill you.

                      Many here won't remember, but as an example, in the mid-60's, we were building six thousand Impala/Caprices EVERY DAY - that's seven full-size assembly plants running 16-18 hours a day just for full-size Chevys. With today's competitive environment, there's hardly a single nameplate/model out there anywhere whose demand will fill ONE assembly plant (except the Honda Civic [East Liberty, OH], Honda Accord (Marysville, OH], Toyota Camry [Georgetown, KY] and the Nissan Altima [Smyrna, TN]).

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                      • Clem Z.
                        Expired
                        • December 31, 2005
                        • 9427

                        #26
                        Re: Interesting GM News

                        Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
                        Yup, VOLUME is (or was) the catalyst that made vertical integration successful; without it, the fixed costs will kill you.

                        Many here won't remember, but as an example, in the mid-60's, we were building six thousand Impala/Caprices EVERY DAY - that's seven full-size assembly plants running 16-18 hours a day just for full-size Chevys. With today's competitive environment, there's hardly a single nameplate/model out there anywhere whose demand will fill ONE assembly plant (except the Honda Civic [East Liberty, OH], Honda Accord (Marysville, OH], Toyota Camry [Georgetown, KY] and the Nissan Altima [Smyrna, TN]).
                        that was when everyone could afford a new car before the fed govt mandated all the extra cost items that put the price of a new car out of the reach of the average worker. back then a guy like me was buying a new car every year and there is no way i could afford to do that now

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                        • Dale S.
                          Expired
                          • November 11, 2007
                          • 1224

                          #27
                          Re: Interesting GM News

                          Almost enough to make me sell mine. D/

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                          • David H.
                            Frequent User
                            • October 25, 2006
                            • 92

                            #28
                            Re: Interesting GM News

                            Oooooh . . . I feel a bit of vomit coming up . . .
                            David Hobby (46447)

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