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  • Michael H.
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    • January 29, 2008
    • 7477

    63 Chassis Judging At Bloomington

    Does anyone happen to know who is judging 63-64 chassis/suspension at the Bloomington Gold event next month? Just wondered how all the cars with black coating on almost everything will judge.
    Last edited by Michael H.; July 1, 2009, 09:13 PM.
  • Tom H.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • December 1, 1993
    • 3440

    #2
    Re: 63 Chassis Judging At Bloomington

    Right or wrong, I am not interested in the black goo on my chassis !!
    Tom Hendricks
    Proud Member NCRS #23758
    NCM Founding Member # 1143
    Corvette Department Manager and
    Specialist for 27 years at BUDS Chevrolet.

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    • Paul J.
      Expired
      • September 9, 2008
      • 2091

      #3
      Re: 63 Chassis Judging At Bloomington

      Originally posted by Tom Hendricks (23758)
      Right or wrong, I am not interested in the black goo on my chassis !!
      Way to go, Tom. You're our boy.

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      • Michael H.
        Expired
        • January 29, 2008
        • 7477

        #4
        Re: 63 Chassis Judging At Bloomington

        Doesn't sound like black coated front/rear suspension/drive for 63-64 is real popular.

        Is this a heavy point deduction?

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        • Harmon C.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • August 31, 1994
          • 3228

          #5
          Re: 63 Chassis Judging At Bloomington

          At Bloomington every line item that the judge feels the finish is not correct will cost you at least 5 points and could be more. The magic number to still get the gold was 495 the last time I had a car judged.
          I would say roughly 30 items at -5 is not a killer but a big hit.
          Lyle

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          • Joe R.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • July 31, 1976
            • 4550

            #6
            Re: 63 Chassis Judging At Bloomington

            As I remember back in the 80's the judges on 63's did not pretend to judge the black goo. Originality is king at Bloomington. You can have the wrong finish on an original part.

            A part cannot grow chromed but the original back goo can be washed off the original part.

            JR

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            • Michael H.
              Expired
              • January 29, 2008
              • 7477

              #7
              Re: 63 Chassis Judging At Bloomington

              Originally posted by Joe Ray (1011)
              As I remember back in the 80's the judges on 63's did not pretend to judge the black goo.
              I don't remember exactly how the chassis/suspension and drive was judged then at BG because I was judging engine and compartment. Jorjorian was doing chassis and I'll bet he was at least deducting some points for non painted items, especially front spindles and half shafts etc.

              I started trying to "splain" to the Corvette world about "final blackout" and how most suspension/brake assy's were coated at least 35 years ago and it's just now beginning to catch on a little bit. It's been a long tough road.

              I agree, it may not look professional or be pretty but that's restoration. Look it up in Websters for those that disagree.

              No one on this board can show me proof that any 63 or 64 ever left the St Louis assy plant with shinny unpainted half shafts and a natural unpainted differential housing. Or natural front spindles. Or natural rear spindle supports.

              Burroughs said it best. "The way it was, not the way we wished it were".

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              • Wayne M.
                Expired
                • March 1, 1980
                • 6414

                #8
                Re: 63 Chassis Judging At Bloomington

                Michael; while you're at it I'd be interested in how chassis is judging the strut rod bracket on the presence or otherwise of the inboard bushing heat shields.

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                • Michael H.
                  Expired
                  • January 29, 2008
                  • 7477

                  #9
                  Re: 63 Chassis Judging At Bloomington

                  Originally posted by Wayne Midkiff (3437)
                  Michael; while you're at it I'd be interested in how chassis is judging the strut rod bracket on the presence or otherwise of the inboard bushing heat shields.
                  Wayne, the JG does mention the strut rod shields for 63 and 64 to about VIN #5500.

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                  • Arnold P.
                    Frequent User
                    • August 31, 2005
                    • 48

                    #10
                    Re: 63 Chassis Judging At Bloomington

                    mike, wayne, et al my 63 #5668 has the shields on them,pappy

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                    • Wayne M.
                      Expired
                      • March 1, 1980
                      • 6414

                      #11
                      Re: 63 Chassis Judging At Bloomington

                      Originally posted by Michael Hanson (4067)
                      Wayne, the JG does mention the strut rod shields for 63 and 64 to about VIN #5500.
                      Michael -- I'm a bit surprised that the '63-4 TIM&JG has such a low VIN call for when the heat shields were discontinued in the 1964 MY.

                      My pic shows the strut rod bracket that came with the complete '64 rear suspension I bought from a guy who bought it in 1968, in California, to put on his '40's rod, but never got around to it. The numbers were all consistent with a late January '64 vehicle (say 9,000 VIN). Diff cast J-18-3; assembled CF_1_3_64; spindle supports A_6_4 and L_7_3. This is the same low mile suspension from which I've previously posted pics of the black (asphaltic ?) paint on the half shafts and the trailing arms.
                      Last edited by Wayne M.; May 18, 2009, 11:01 AM.

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                      • Michael H.
                        Expired
                        • January 29, 2008
                        • 7477

                        #12
                        Re: 63 Chassis Judging At Bloomington

                        Originally posted by Wayne Midkiff (3437)
                        Michael -- I'm a bit surprised that the '63-4 TIM&JG has such a low VIN call for when the heat shields were discontinued in the 1964 MY.
                        Thanks Wayne. Sounds like the #5500 VIN for 64 camber cam shields needs to be adjusted a bit.
                        Wish I could remember if my new 64 #8763 had the shields.

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