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  • Charles P.
    Infrequent User
    • December 1, 2002
    • 22

    What type of finish on bracket ?

    Hello I would like to know what type of finish is correct on my 72 seat back lock assembly bracket ( which contains the 2 screws ). I cleaned it and it needs a touch up. The bracket seems to appear as not flat black but does have a semi gloss look to it. If anyone has pictures of what color it should be and what type of paint etc that I could use. I did use the test form to see if I could put pic of my bracket and it did come out ok . I will try and put the pic in this request Looking for help and replies thank you
    72 cpstingray
  • Alan S.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • July 31, 1989
    • 3415

    #2
    Re: What type of finish on bracket ?

    Hi Charles,
    On my 71 the bracket is dark gray phosphate, (similar to the hood latches), and the 'loop' is plated bright cad or zinc.
    I hope this helps you.
    Regards,
    Alan
    71 Coupe, 350/270, 4 speed
    Mason Dixon Chapter
    Chapter Top Flight October 2011

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    • Patrick H.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • December 1, 1989
      • 11616

      #3
      Re: What type of finish on bracket ?

      I "think" we determined a few weeks ago in a different thread that 71 and "maybe" early 72 were black phosphate, but later 72 is semi-gloss or similar black paint.
      Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
      71 "deer modified" coupe
      72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
      2008 coupe
      Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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      • Charles P.
        Infrequent User
        • December 1, 2002
        • 22

        #4
        Re: What type of finish on bracket ?

        Hello Patick 1ST>. Thank you for reply. I I have to believe you are correct. My June 28-72 built Vette. I cleaned the the bracket, I could tell it has had its time of wear etc. As I was cleaning the bracket ( the under neath of it showed A DRIP or BLOB of paint which was black with a semi/low/ gloss appearence) . As I cleaned and inspected the bracket and checked if it been worked on before,and it to did not show signs of been worked on. I do believe in my opinion that these brackets were sprayed ( possible dipped ) very poorly. due to the signs of how the paint was applied --streaks --lines and the dryed blob of paint which I found on the under side of the bracket. You mention that this topic was brought up awhile back if possible can you send info so that I read that disscussion? your reply is very greatly appreicated --thank you for helping me looking foward to chat more with you when possible. THANK YOU
        72 cpstingray

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        • Patrick H.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • December 1, 1989
          • 11616

          #5
          Re: What type of finish on bracket ?

          Originally posted by Charles Perea (38953)
          Hello Patick 1ST>. Thank you for reply. I I have to believe you are correct. My June 28-72 built Vette. I cleaned the the bracket, I could tell it has had its time of wear etc. As I was cleaning the bracket ( the under neath of it showed A DRIP or BLOB of paint which was black with a semi/low/ gloss appearence) . As I cleaned and inspected the bracket and checked if it been worked on before,and it to did not show signs of been worked on. I do believe in my opinion that these brackets were sprayed ( possible dipped ) very poorly. due to the signs of how the paint was applied --streaks --lines and the dryed blob of paint which I found on the under side of the bracket. You mention that this topic was brought up awhile back if possible can you send info so that I read that disscussion? your reply is very greatly appreicated --thank you for helping me looking foward to chat more with you when possible. THANK YOU
          Charles,

          Nothing to send; just check the Archives here.

          I know that the 72 I'm working on "seems" to have black phosphate, and it's in the S/N 7500 range. My own early June 72 has painted ones, but I could swear my 71 had painted ones as well. Unfortunately my 71's lineage is not as clear as the two 72s, so no guarantee on that car.

          Patrick
          Last edited by Patrick H.; April 18, 2009, 10:13 PM.
          Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
          71 "deer modified" coupe
          72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
          2008 coupe
          Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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          • Charles P.
            Infrequent User
            • December 1, 2002
            • 22

            #6
            Re: What type of finish on bracket ?

            Patrick Good feed back on this --thank you--I will check the Archives. When I go to check Archives what do you recommened ( word-pharse ? ) that I type in this search ? Thank you
            72 cpstingray

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            • Edward J.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • September 15, 2008
              • 6940

              #7
              Re: What type of finish on bracket ?

              Charles,my April 72 Coupe Has The Brackets That Appear To Be Dipped In Semi Gloss Blk. They've Never Been Touched.
              New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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              • Charles P.
                Infrequent User
                • December 1, 2002
                • 22

                #8
                Re: What type of finish on bracket ?

                Hello Edward Thank you for input, is it possible get pic of your bracket ? looking foward to hear from you
                72 cpstingray

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                • Jeffrey S.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • May 31, 1988
                  • 1880

                  #9
                  Re: What type of finish on bracket ?

                  Patrick:
                  Regarding the black phosphate: some weeks ago we both subscribed to a thread on this and I said I bought the Shooters Solution material and was going try it. You said to report back on the quality and I experimented with a large fender washer and the results are fantastic! The color is exactly right (dark charcoal grey but not black) and the "speckles" look to be right on. I am going to do a pair of hood latches this week so I will take some pictures and post them with some details of the process. Maybe I'll even write an article on it. Missed seeing you today at the chapter swap meet.
                  Jeff

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                  • Don L.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • August 31, 2005
                    • 1005

                    #10
                    Re: What type of finish on bracket ?

                    Thanks for this one, Charles. Caused me to have a look at mine. First I thought it was plated, but upon closer exam, I see that it's painted - and a sloppy job at that.

                    Hmmm. Alan's '71 brackets are plated, however, I spoke with an orig owner '71 LT1 earlier today, who advises that his are painted. Patrick's late '72 is painted. Another '72 is plated. Might we have multiple vendors, using different finishes? Kinda strange that 2 vendors would be tooled up for this low volume part. Did this part get used in other GM 2-door applications? (Camaro, G body, etc)?

                    I can't quite see what the headmarks on your bolts are. Can you describe the markings, and are yours painted or plated? I clearly see that they are black, however, I see a silver/grey color where a wrench has been on them. Is this the plating worn thin or is it paint worn off?
                    Don Lowe
                    NCRS #44382
                    Carolinas Chapter

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                    • Patrick H.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • December 1, 1989
                      • 11616

                      #11
                      Re: What type of finish on bracket ?

                      Originally posted by Jeffrey Salz (13182)
                      Patrick:
                      Regarding the black phosphate: some weeks ago we both subscribed to a thread on this and I said I bought the Shooters Solution material and was going try it. You said to report back on the quality and I experimented with a large fender washer and the results are fantastic! The color is exactly right (dark charcoal grey but not black) and the "speckles" look to be right on. I am going to do a pair of hood latches this week so I will take some pictures and post them with some details of the process. Maybe I'll even write an article on it. Missed seeing you today at the chapter swap meet.
                      Jeff
                      Jeff,

                      Glad that you like it.
                      Next time I see you (June, either Chapter Meet or Bloomington) you'll have to fill me in on your phone call with the owner of Shooter's Solutions.

                      Patrick
                      Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                      71 "deer modified" coupe
                      72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                      2008 coupe
                      Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                      • Charles P.
                        Infrequent User
                        • December 1, 2002
                        • 22

                        #12
                        Re: What type of finish on bracket ?

                        Hello Don Lowe ,Appricate your input. The bolts with washer are not painted. They have that old black oxide look to them . I will attempt to insert pictures of these .I need to transfer pic from camera to my lap top. The markings have a S with short hash marks 3 of them one to left -one to right one --one downards----SOON as get pictures down loaded you will be able to see good pic, I will work on this now
                        72 cpstingray

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                        • Charles P.
                          Infrequent User
                          • December 1, 2002
                          • 22

                          #13
                          Re: What type of finish on bracket ?

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                          IMG_1697.jpgHello Don Lowe Here are pictures
                          72 cpstingray

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