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  • Kurt G.
    Very Frequent User
    • April 30, 2005
    • 343

    Insurance 101 basics

    I just read a post from a couple of days ago the, for some reason, concerned me. A member was posting that his rates with one company nearly doubled, and he switched to save money. Citing "agreed value" as part of his decision always raises the hair on my neck. I spent over 25 years in the insurance industry as an agent, and you would be very surprised how little most people, including some agents know about what agreed value is. The two companies discussed in the post that have true "agreed value" policy forms are Hagerty and Grundy.

    Guys, read your policies very carefully. If the policy doesn't say "agreed value" on the policy declaration page (that's the page that shows the insureds name address and coverage limits, and in the definitions or what we will pay section of the policy for damage to your vehicle, you probably don't have "agreed value" coverage. Look for words like total loss or constructive total loss, and phrases like the amount necessary to repair or replace the property with similar kind and quality without regard to depreciation or betterment. Remember, you are buying a legal contract, and the insurance company will only pay what that contract requires them to pay. They are not obligated to hold your hand and help you make the right choice in buying your insurance.

    Unfortunately, most insurance companies don't have either the knowledge or the ability to write a true agreed value policy form for your classic car. If they did, they'd do like Hagerty and Grundy and specialize. They are all generalists. They write homeowners, businesses, moms soccer wagon, you dad old fishing boat. Most don't have a clue what the value of a 1967 427/435 is worth, or where to start looking. Futhermore, the time for you to learn they don't isn't when your baby has come up missing or destroyed and the claims adjustor is standing there with a check for $8,000 wanting your keys and title.

    You didn't spend $20 on that set of Walmart plug wires, you spent $100 for the date code correct wires. My suggestion is don't penny pinch on the insurance for your baby. I'd rather know I'm getting my check for $50,000 when that car winds up trashed and have spent $300-500 more for a years worth of insurance. In the long run, that $300 more per year will hopefully be money you'll wish you never spent, meaning you'll never have a loss. But, if you go the cheap route now, you may wind up kicking yourself in the butt when you get that knock-off hood that doesn't fit and the State Farm adjustor (just an example) says "well, the body shop guys said he would make it work."

    If you want to go the cheaper route, that's your choice. But, ask your agent to put it in writing that you have true agreed value coverage. I did. That's why over a year ago I left American Family and went to Hagerty.
    Kurt Geis
    Chairman, Midway USA Chapter
    Targa Blue 1972, Top Flight and Duntov Award, 2014
    Arctic White 1994, Top Flight, Hrt. of Amer. Reg. 2011
    Arctic White 2013 60th Anniv Special Edition Conv.
  • Roy V.
    Very Frequent User
    • April 8, 2008
    • 301

    #2
    Re: Insurance 101 basics

    Thanks Kurt, for the heads-up on insurance policies
    1972 LT-1 Elkhart Green Coupe

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    • Fenwick B.
      Expired
      • January 1, 2005
      • 115

      #3
      Re: Insurance 101 basics

      Kurt, Thanks for the info. I have Haggerty on my vettes, and I was wondering what would happen if I had one of my cars grossly under insured, and have a loss? Would they pay the full damage amount, even though the car may still be worth the "agreed value"?

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      • Kurt G.
        Very Frequent User
        • April 30, 2005
        • 343

        #4
        Re: Insurance 101 basics

        I can't answer for Hagerty. Call them to verify. But, if your car is worth, let's say $50,000 and you have it insured for $40,000 and someone wants it more than you, I'd have to say you're hosed. All any insurance company is required to pay on an agreed value form is the agreed value. That's why I would recommend you have your car appraised by a credible appraiser every couple, meaning two years. That way you can make sure you are up to date on the value of your car. A simple check of the used Corvette web ads isn't enough.

        I handled strictly aviation insurance, which is 100% agreed value policy form. I had one insured that bought a $1.2 million airplane, owed only $300,000 on it and wanted to insure it for that $300k. We did, made him sign an agreement acknowledging he requested that underinsured amount. As luck would have it, his airplane was destroyed in hurricane Andrew. The insurance company wrote him a check for $300,000 less his deductible, and walked away. He tried to sue our agency. We gave his signed affidavit to his attorney, who turned around walked away.

        As in any insurance policy, it is your obligation, not your agents, to make sure you have coverage that will protect your property. The insurance industry gets a bad rap because too many people don't understand what they are buying, don't ask questions, and want to take the cheap way out. Cheap ain't always good.

        I am no longer an agent, but I still have a hard time watching people cheap their way out of insurance. It is truly one area where you get what you pay for.
        Kurt Geis
        Chairman, Midway USA Chapter
        Targa Blue 1972, Top Flight and Duntov Award, 2014
        Arctic White 1994, Top Flight, Hrt. of Amer. Reg. 2011
        Arctic White 2013 60th Anniv Special Edition Conv.

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