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  • Kenneth T.
    Very Frequent User
    • March 23, 2008
    • 631

    '71 Fuel Cap Factory vs Dealer?

    I have my original fuel cap with the obvious wear and tear. I also have the chrome locking (B&S Keyed) dealer installed cap.

    The 4th edition details the factory twist on and mentions the smooth chrome dealer installed cap. My question is how would each judge for originality and condition?

    I have heard it is not how it left St. Louis but how it left the dealer.

    PS, A nice article from Jack Humphrey in the restorer on the '71 CEC system!
  • Michael W.
    Expired
    • March 31, 1997
    • 4290

    #2
    Re: '71 Fuel Cap Factory vs Dealer?

    Dealer or owner inspired options are subject to a deduction.

    The screw on cap is original, the locking cap is not. If the judging guide calls for a complete deduction or close you would lose all condition points.

    Far better off with an original cap IMHO.

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    • Kenneth T.
      Very Frequent User
      • March 23, 2008
      • 631

      #3
      Re: '71 Fuel Cap Factory vs Dealer?

      Originally posted by Michael Ward (29001)
      Dealer or owner inspired options are subject to a deduction.

      The screw on cap is original, the locking cap is not. If the judging guide calls for a complete deduction or close you would lose all condition points.

      Far better off with an original cap IMHO.
      Thanks Michael,

      I guess my curiosity is over the dealer / factory. The fact the dealer cap is even mentioned in the Judging Manual makes me wonder if it would be considered for originality? You vote factory rules?

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      • Mike E.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • February 28, 1975
        • 5134

        #4
        Re: '71 Fuel Cap Factory vs Dealer?

        Originally posted by Kenneth Tozzi (48795)
        Thanks Michael,

        I guess my curiosity is over the dealer / factory. The fact the dealer cap is even mentioned in the Judging Manual makes me wonder if it would be considered for originality? You vote factory rules?
        It's not a vote--NCRS judging standard since 1974 is "as it left the factory". I have a hunch that is not about to change in the near future.

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        • Kenneth T.
          Very Frequent User
          • March 23, 2008
          • 631

          #5
          Re: '71 Fuel Cap Factory vs Dealer?

          Originally posted by Mike Ernst (211)
          It's not a vote--NCRS judging standard since 1974 is "as it left the factory". I have a hunch that is not about to change in the near future.
          Thanks for the reply, Mike. It settles my question.

          Ken

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          • Edward C.
            Expired
            • February 28, 1985
            • 125

            #6
            Re: '71 Fuel Cap Factory vs Dealer?

            Thanks for the information all. I got my 71 with a chrome very heavy non screw on cap and I was wondering if it was a dealer item. I guess it is. I have sense replaced it with a repo. Ed

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            • Patrick H.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • November 30, 1989
              • 11609

              #7
              Re: '71 Fuel Cap Factory vs Dealer?

              Originally posted by Mike Ernst (211)
              It's not a vote--NCRS judging standard since 1974 is "as it left the factory" ...
              ... and went through normal dealer preparation.
              Key point, and a key difference when compared to Bloomington.

              Patrick
              Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
              71 "deer modified" coupe
              72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
              2008 coupe
              Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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              • Joe L.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • January 31, 1988
                • 43193

                #8
                Re: '71 Fuel Cap Factory vs Dealer?

                Originally posted by Kenneth Tozzi (48795)
                I have my original fuel cap with the obvious wear and tear. I also have the chrome locking (B&S Keyed) dealer installed cap.

                The 4th edition details the factory twist on and mentions the smooth chrome dealer installed cap. My question is how would each judge for originality and condition?

                I have heard it is not how it left St. Louis but how it left the dealer.

                PS, A nice article from Jack Humphrey in the restorer on the '71 CEC system!
                Kenneth-----


                I don't recommend the use of a locking gas cap except when the vehicle may be parked for an extended period or overnight in an area of "security vulnerability". I'm sure that the VAST majority of 63-74 Corvettes are rarely, if ever, so-exposed. As far as locking gas caps go, they are, basically, an "anachronism" for 63-74 Corvettes-----a "leftover" from the days when the cars were driven regularly.

                The 63-74 locking gas caps typically do not seal as well as the standard cap and fuel can leak into the fuel seal ("boot"). Forget them (but carry one with you for occasions "on the road" when the above-referenced may occur).
                In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                • Jack H.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • March 31, 1990
                  • 9906

                  #9
                  Re: '71 Fuel Cap Factory vs Dealer?

                  As others have mentioned, the judging standard is how the car was originally built + delivered to the original owner sans owner/dealer inspired configuration changes OTHER than those supported by then current GM/Chevy paid dealer prep. The full text of the standard is cited in your copy of the NCRS Judging Reference Manual.

                  So, items like locking gas cap, floor mats, RH mirror, road emergency kits, ski/luggage rack, Etc. would all qualify as deduction items. You'll find specific guidance on many of these cited in the specific JG book with some being called out as full deduction items and others deemed minor/partial deduction items.

                  Bottom line, the answer isn't 100% iron clad...you have to crack a book and read up on the item(s) in question.

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                  • Kenneth T.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • March 23, 2008
                    • 631

                    #10
                    Re: '71 Fuel Cap Factory vs Dealer?

                    Originally posted by Jack Humphrey (17100)
                    As others have mentioned, the judging standard is how the car was originally built + delivered to the original owner sans owner/dealer inspired configuration changes OTHER than those supported by then current GM/Chevy paid dealer prep. The full text of the standard is cited in your copy of the NCRS Judging Reference Manual.

                    So, items like locking gas cap, floor mats, RH mirror, road emergency kits, ski/luggage rack, Etc. would all qualify as deduction items. You'll find specific guidance on many of these cited in the specific JG book with some being called out as full deduction items and others deemed minor/partial deduction items.

                    Bottom line, the answer isn't 100% iron clad...you have to crack a book and read up on the item(s) in question.
                    Thanks Jack,

                    I am ordering the Judging Reference Manual, I have the JG but obviously need more.

                    Ken

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