GMpartsdirect Equivalent

[Jim S.]

Hey guys,

I just went online to order a set of valves from GMpartsdirect. They informed me that they no longer carry them. At least not the ones I want
.I learned of GMpartsdirect from this forum and have saved a fortune , so thanks !

So now my my question is where else might I aquire a set of 1966 GM valves at a less then GM price? $20-$23 apiece, That is the price Sckogins -Dickey is quoting. Do I even need to go GM on valves ,As nowadays they are most likely made in china anyway ?

The valves in question are: Intake Valve #3849814
Exhaust valve #3849818

Thanks ,


Jim Schwering

[Joe R.]

Re: GMpartsdirect Equivalent

Jim,

Which engine do you have?

Joe

[Dick W.]

Re: GMpartsdirect Equivalent

Jim, go to your local NAPA, Carquest, or other professional auto parts store. Sealed Power, FM and several other manufacturers should have the valves. In fact one of them probably made them for GM

[Jim S.]

Re: GMpartsdirect Equivalent

Joe ,

It is a 1966 327/350hp.

Dick ,

Thanks ,

That is what I fiqured , but I wanted to make sure. I wasn't sure if "valves" varried all that much from GM and others.
The engine builder told me it was Nuts to buy GM valves at that price , as he has told me about other GM parts. However with the prices at GMdirect I didn't mind doing it !


Jim

[Dick W.]

Re: GMpartsdirect Equivalent

GMPartsDirect is just down the road from me. Very good prices, but, as in another thread, the shipping charges are the main profit center in that operation

[Joe L.]

Re: GMpartsdirect Equivalent

Hey guys,

I just went online to order a set of valves from GMpartsdirect. They informed me that they no longer carry them. At least not the ones I want
.I learned of GMpartsdirect from this forum and have saved a fortune , so thanks !

So now my my question is where else might I aquire a set of 1966 GM valves at a less then GM price? $20-$23 apiece, That is the price Sckogins -Dickey is quoting. Do I even need to go GM on valves ,As nowadays they are most likely made in china anyway ?

The valves in question are: Intake Valve #3849814
Exhaust valve #3849818

Thanks ,


Jim Schwering

Jim-----


The reason that GM Parts Direct doesn't carry these valves is that they're GM-discontinued. Very few dealers would have these valves in dealer stock, so if they can't get them from GM, they can't sell them to you. The only way that you'll find the GM-branded valves at this point is to find a dealer or other individual with NOS in inventory. I don't think you'll find many.

Sealed Power (Federal Mogul) has what you need.

intake---Sealed Power #V1756

exhaust---Sealed Power #V1755

[Jim S.]

Re: GMpartsdirect Equivalent

Dick,

I agree with you there.

By the way, I love that picture of you in your first car !
Here I thought you were of the "Rat Fink" generation

Jim

[Jim S.]

Re: GMpartsdirect Equivalent

Hi Joe,

Thanks for those #s..

Actually ,Skogins-Dickey (another parts place I heard of on this Forum) still has those part #s , but as I said at $20 and $23 apeice.

I will look up the new FM #s next.

Jim

[Joe L.]

Re: GMpartsdirect Equivalent

GMPartsDirect is just down the road from me. Very good prices, but, as in another thread, the shipping charges are the main profit center in that operation

Dick----


The "shipping and handling" charges pretty much have to be their main profit center. The prices they list are the actual dealer cost price for the parts from GM. So, aside from any stock allowances or other incentives, they would be selling the parts at cost without the shipping and handling charges.

[Joe L.]

Re: GMpartsdirect Equivalent

Hi Joe,

Thanks for those #s..

Actually ,Skogins-Dickey (another parts place I heard of on this Forum) still has those part #s , but as I said at $20 and $23 apeice.

I will look up the new FM #s next.

Jim

Jim-----


The GM-branded valves were always expensive. You should be able to buy the Sealed Power valves for about 7 bucks, each. Are they the same as the GM valves? Well, these valves were never manufactured by GM. Some were supplied by TRW, the engine components entity of which is now part of Federal-Mogul/Sealed Power. However, this does not mean that the valves they supplied to GM are the same as the ones they sell under their own brand. In the case of the ones that were available in later GM SERVICE (i.e. like the ones that you'd be getting from Skoggins-Dickey if you bought the GM valves from them), I expect the current Sealed Power offerings are the same. But, I don't know that, for sure.

[Dick W.]

Re: GMpartsdirect Equivalent

Dick----


The "shipping and handling" charges pretty much have to be their main profit center. The prices they list are the actual dealer cost price for the parts from GM. So, aside from any stock allowances or other incentives, they would be selling the parts at cost without the shipping and handling charges.

They participate in some sort of special program that gives them "special" pricing on their parts. I am very good friends with the parts supervisor for the company that owns GMPartsDirect. They are also warehouse distributors for GM accessories for several states.

[Duke W.]

Re: GMpartsdirect Equivalent

If you have any GM part number, go to www.napaonline.com and type it into the cross reference to get the Sealed Power part number. Likely you will get the numbers previously listed, and they are the exact same parts that GM was selling, but GM's volume is so low on such old replacement parts that they have discontinued them.

The aftermarket marketing channels should remain for some time, but GM does very low volume in such old parts, so they aren't worth stocking.

You can also look up OE replacement parts using the year, make, model, engine on the NAPA Web site.

Duke

[David M.]

Re: GMpartsdirect Equivalent

What ever you do don't go to NAPA. They are the biggest junk parts distributor there is. Won't last. I'll check with my GM connection and see if I can come up with what you need.

David

[Duke W.]

Re: GMpartsdirect Equivalent

What are you talking about?

NAPA sells the same parts, manufactured in the same plants as GM, but instead of a GM box they are packaged in a Sealed Power box, which is a Federal Mogul brand name; and the parts - both in the GM and Sealed Power box are made by F-M.

You can buy an ignition system part in an Echlin box from NAPA or in a BWD box from Pep Boys or in a Delco box from a Delco source - same part manufactured by Standard Motor Products.

Most vintage parts have only one or maybe two manufacturing sources, but are distributed via multiple distribution channels under various traditional brand names, most of which are owned by the big parts players like Sealed Power, Dana Corp. Standard, and Genuine.

The retail source you buy parts from is inconseqential other than price and convenience. In the vast majority of cases, the parts, regardless of retail source or brand name, were fabricated at the same manufacturing plant.

Duke

[David M.]

Re: GMpartsdirect Equivalent

I have a brother that works for TRW making car parts. Once tested the first quality parts go to a one of the big 3. The flawed ones don't go to the trash they are package to go to NAPA, Advance, Auto zone, Pep boys etc. The parts do start out at the same place but they have first, second and third qualities. Another brother owns a garage ASE certified. He swore by Napa but now is disgusted with their quality, performance and fit. Something like a valve you don't want to have to put it in two or three times.

David