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  • Steve Z.
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    • July 30, 2008
    • 28

    68 corvette

    Am i correct in thinking---- 68vette vin ending in 4173 would have a build day around oct 10,1967? Also, i believe the tag number on the auto trans is ck 68 284 would this also date to oct. 10? any input would be appreciated.
  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • February 1, 1988
    • 43211

    #2
    Re: 68 corvette

    Originally posted by Steve Zitney (49216)
    Am i correct in thinking---- 68vette vin ending in 4173 would have a build day around oct 10,1967? Also, i believe the tag number on the auto trans is ck 68 284 would this also date to oct. 10? any input would be appreciated.
    Steve-----


    It was built about NOVEMBER 10, 1967, not October. The trim tag will tell you about when the body was built. It should be something close to "D07".
    Last edited by Joe L.; February 24, 2009, 04:05 PM.
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Steve Z.
      Expired
      • July 30, 2008
      • 28

      #3
      Re: 68 corvette

      looking to get trim codes soon, but if you use the final monthly serial numbers from the spec guide it doesnt add up. end of oct. 403410----end of nov 405682. could you explain? thanks,steve

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      • Steve Z.
        Expired
        • July 30, 2008
        • 28

        #4
        Re: 68 corvette

        correct me if i am wrong but that would make it around nov. 10?

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        • Joe L.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • February 1, 1988
          • 43211

          #5
          Re: 68 corvette

          Originally posted by Steve Zitney (49216)
          correct me if i am wrong but that would make it around nov. 10?

          Steve-----


          There was a typo in my previous response. I meant to say November 10. I've corrected it.
          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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          • Steve Z.
            Expired
            • July 30, 2008
            • 28

            #6
            Re: 68 corvette

            thank you for your help. trim tag is D08. i guess that answers my question too nov 8 it passed that station.Would Oct 10 be approx date of the trans?

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            • Joe L.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • February 1, 1988
              • 43211

              #7
              Re: 68 corvette

              Originally posted by Steve Zitney (49216)
              thank you for your help. trim tag is D08. i guess that answers my question too nov 8 it passed that station.Would Oct 10 be approx date of the trans?
              Steve----


              Yes, the transmission manufacture date was October 10. However, it was, of course, October 10, 1967 for the 1968 MODEL YEAR.
              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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              • Steve Z.
                Expired
                • July 30, 2008
                • 28

                #8
                Re: 68 corvette

                i am just trying to figure this car out. the gas tank sheet shows a date of nov 12 67 this shows the car should have the l89 option but the car has air ,auto, etc. the trim codes are only 4 days off of the build sheet from the gas tank. the auto trans is about 1 month off.could the factory accidentally build a car with the wrong sheet attached to the tank? thanks,steve

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                • Terry M.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • September 30, 1980
                  • 15595

                  #9
                  Re: 68 corvette

                  Not only could they, but I have absolutely seen it -- I have seen it in the 1970-1972 years more than once. I don't know the details of it, but I have seen it in the later 1971 and 1972 where a portion of the VIN is on the sheet. Not only wrong options, but wrong VIN on the sheet.
                  Terry

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                  • Steve Z.
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                    • July 30, 2008
                    • 28

                    #10
                    Re: 68 corvette

                    sorry about being a pain, i just cannot figure out the importance of the gas tank sheet. is this something that the workers used to build the car? i am still wet behind the ears but the difference in my car is a 327 autocar with air or is it a L89 rare car? somehow i got a gas tank from another car? this car has been sitting for over nineteen years. what should i believe?

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                    • Joe L.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • February 1, 1988
                      • 43211

                      #11
                      Re: 68 corvette

                      Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
                      Not only could they, but I have absolutely seen it -- I have seen it in the 1970-1972 years more than once. I don't know the details of it, but I have seen it in the later 1971 and 1972 where a portion of the VIN is on the sheet. Not only wrong options, but wrong VIN on the sheet.
                      Terry and Steve-----


                      The late George Barlos, who worked at the St. Louis Corvette plant for many years, once said that attaching an incorrect tank sticker to a car was not uncommon, at all. The way he described it being done, it was a very "haphazard" process. Plus, as far as the workers were concerned, it was a very low priority task that, if done incorrectly, was unlikely to be detected in subsequent inspections at the plant. So, why would they be very concerned about it?
                      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                      • Steve Z.
                        Expired
                        • July 30, 2008
                        • 28

                        #12
                        Re: 68 corvette

                        when were these gas tank sheets applied? is it before the options were added to the car or after they were completed?who determines the assembly accuracy and did they follow this sheet or other paperwork?

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                        • Joe L.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • February 1, 1988
                          • 43211

                          #13
                          Re: 68 corvette

                          Originally posted by Steve Zitney (49216)
                          sorry about being a pain, i just cannot figure out the importance of the gas tank sheet. is this something that the workers used to build the car? i am still wet behind the ears but the difference in my car is a 327 autocar with air or is it a L89 rare car? somehow i got a gas tank from another car? this car has been sitting for over nineteen years. what should i believe?
                          Steve----


                          The importance of the tank sticker is that it is often the only "documentation" that a car has. In most cases, other forms of documentation are long gone. So, the tank sticker can serve as the only way to document how a car was originally equipped.

                          I have, personally, had a fairly low opinion of the value of tank stickers for years, and I've always considered that they were WAY over-rated. One problem is the exact issue that's apparently come into play here-----that being that cars could easily have the incorrect tank sticker attached. The other much greater issue is that for most of the model years of the greatest concern the VIN or VIN-derivative was not even recorded on the tank sticker. Although date-wise, any particular sticker could not be correct for every car of the model year, there would still be a fairly large number of cars built that any particular sticker could be "transferred" to in "modern times". So, an undocumented car could be "cloned" to a sticker and then become a documented car.
                          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                          • Joe L.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • February 1, 1988
                            • 43211

                            #14
                            Re: 68 corvette

                            Originally posted by Steve Zitney (49216)
                            when were these gas tank sheets applied? is it before the options were added to the car or after they were completed?who determines the assembly accuracy and did they follow this sheet or other paperwork?

                            Steve-----


                            1) The "tank stickers" were installed on the assembly line after the installation of the fuel tank to the chassis but before the body drop;

                            2) Who determines assembly accuracy? If you're talking about actual assembly of the car to the build sheet, there were numerous inspections at the plant. If you're talking about who determines the accuracy of the build sheet attached to the fuel tank with the actual car, I strongly suspect it was no one. I really doubt that this was ever inspected;

                            3) The "tank sticker" is but one carbon-copy of the car's build sheet. There were other copies of it used to build the car with the correct options and colors as well as other internal paperwork which was also used. Most of the problems only related to the attachment of the correct build sheet to the fuel tank and not the correct build of the car. This is because, as George Barlos told it, there was a stack of build sheets on a table or desk that were supposed to be in the same order as the cars coming down the line. The line person assigned to applying glue to the sheets and slapping them on the fuel tank just grabbed the one on the top of the stack and applied it. If, for example, a fan blew one of the sheets off the stack, then sheets would be "one off" for every car after that happened. The line person was not careful about checking to ensure that the right sticker got attached to the right car.
                            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                            • John H.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • December 1, 1997
                              • 16513

                              #15
                              Re: 68 corvette

                              Originally posted by Steve Zitney (49216)
                              when were these gas tank sheets applied? is it before the options were added to the car or after they were completed?who determines the assembly accuracy and did they follow this sheet or other paperwork?
                              In the midyear era ('67), they were applied at the gas tank subassembly area; the operator there needed it to determine whether to install a coupe or convertible filler neck on the tank before leak-testing the tank.

                              The car was built to a "Broadcast Copy" prior to 1971, and after that to a "Manifest".

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