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  • Doug J.
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    • April 1, 2005
    • 140

    Trailing Arm Question

    I recently purchased a set of rebuilt Trailing Arms. As I was looking them over I noticed that one trailing arm has the holes drilled out for the rear sway bar link bracket, the other trailing arm does NOT have the holes drilled out. It's not really a problem because I can drill the 2 holes out myself, my question is this.....Why would the trailing arm NOT have the holes drilled out, what years were not available with a rear sway bar thus not needing the holes, and/or is this trailing arm not correct for the car.

    Car is a 1971 with a 454/4spd and F41 suspension. See picture's for arms in question and bracket.
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  • Harry S.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • July 31, 2002
    • 5293

    #2
    Re: Trailing Arm Question

    63 and 64 no hole.


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    • Doug J.
      Expired
      • April 1, 2005
      • 140

      #3
      Re: Trailing Arm Question

      Would the arm from a 63 or 64 still fit properly on a 1971 ?

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      • Gary R.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • April 1, 1989
        • 1796

        #4
        Re: Trailing Arm Question

        They were drilled out when the rear sway bar was part of the package. You can see the holes are off center which is common. New arms don't have the holes either.
        The 63-64 arms( drum brakes) are a little different then the 65-82 arms. They don't have the bump stop or PB bracket on them. The bushings are the same and I believe the offset is as well.
        If you bought exchange arms, that is a common complaint, many times the arms received back are not the same quality as the originals and most times rebuilding the originals is the best option unless time is a factor.

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        • Jack H.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • April 1, 1990
          • 9906

          #5
          Re: Trailing Arm Question

          If memory serves, rear sway bars were only installed on 454 BB's and F41 equipped cars from that era...

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          • Harry S.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • July 31, 2002
            • 5293

            #6
            Re: Trailing Arm Question

            Doug, on a 63 and 64 there is only one bracket welded on the side for the brake line. Starting in 65 there was a welded bracket on both sides. Go to Bairs website and look at the differences between the two configurations.


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            • Doug J.
              Expired
              • April 1, 2005
              • 140

              #7
              Re: Trailing Arm Question

              That was also a question that I forgot to ask originally, if they were drilled out as required, when the car was to have a sway bar installed. The arm with no holes HAS the bump stop and the parking brake bracket. So the arm could have just come from a car that did not have a sway bar installed at the factory ? So there should (hopefully) be no problem with the fit, all I have to do is drill out 2 holes.

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              • Joe L.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • February 1, 1988
                • 43211

                #8
                Re: Trailing Arm Question

                Originally posted by Doug Jorgensen (43687)
                That was also a question that I forgot to ask originally, if they were drilled out as required, when the car was to have a sway bar installed. The arm with no holes HAS the bump stop and the parking brake bracket. So the arm could have just come from a car that did not have a sway bar installed at the factory ? So there should (hopefully) be no problem with the fit, all I have to do is drill out 2 holes.
                Doug----


                As long as you have the arms with the parking brake cable bracket, you have what you need. All you need to do is to drill the holes for the sway bar bracket retaining bolts.

                All 63-82 GM arms have the same offset, so there's no need to be concerned about that.
                In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                • John H.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • December 1, 1997
                  • 16513

                  #9
                  Re: Trailing Arm Question

                  Doug -

                  There was only one pair (RH & LH) of trailing arm assemblies received at St. Louis; when they were going to go on a unit that called for a rear stabilizer bar, the two holes were drilled in the arm in an off-line fixture before they were installed on the rear suspension subassembly.

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                  • Gerard F.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • June 30, 2004
                    • 3805

                    #10
                    Re: Trailing Arm Question

                    Doug,

                    At least in 67, if not other years to 82, small blocks did not come with rear sway bars. Thus no holes for the sway bars.

                    I recently had to change the original trailing arms on my 67. When I ordered the new trailing arms from Paragon (they actually came from Ikerd's), you could order them with or without the holes.

                    Looks like they sent you one side for a small block, which I think is the same except for the holes.
                    Jerry Fuccillo
                    1967 327/300 Convertible since 1968

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                    • Michael G.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • March 2, 2008
                      • 485

                      #11
                      Re: Trailing Arm Question

                      I have a Dec. 70 built 71 with the original trailing arms. It's a small block w/o rear sway bar and both are drilled. Could this be a problem for judging or was this possible during assembly? To the best of my knowledge and history research, these are the arms the car was given at assembly. Mike

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                      • Joe L.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • February 1, 1988
                        • 43211

                        #12
                        Re: Trailing Arm Question

                        Originally posted by Michael Gaither (48683)
                        I have a Dec. 70 built 71 with the original trailing arms. It's a small block w/o rear sway bar and both are drilled. Could this be a problem for judging or was this possible during assembly? To the best of my knowledge and history research, these are the arms the car was given at assembly. Mike
                        Mike-----


                        I would not be the least bit surprised that some original small block cars had the arms drilled for the sway bar bracket bolts.
                        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                        • Joe L.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • February 1, 1988
                          • 43211

                          #13
                          Re: Trailing Arm Question

                          Originally posted by Gerard Fuccillo (42179)
                          Doug,

                          At least in 67, if not other years to 82, small blocks did not come with rear sway bars. Thus no holes for the sway bars.

                          Jerry-----


                          1963-74 small blocks did not have a rear sway bar with the POSSIBLE (but, in my opinion doubtful) exception of some 1970-72 with ZR-1. However, beginning in 1975, small blocks with FE-7 HD suspension did have a rear sway bar. It was a different and smaller OD bar than was used for 65-74 big blocks, though.
                          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                          • Michael G.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • March 2, 2008
                            • 485

                            #14
                            Re: Trailing Arm Question

                            Thank you Joe,
                            Possibly another anomaly from the factory. I get nervous with the written rules regarding these. Not sure what to expect if/ when judged. Mike

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                            • Gary R.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • April 1, 1989
                              • 1796

                              #15
                              Re: Trailing Arm Question

                              Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                              Jerry-----


                              1963-74 small blocks did not have a rear sway bar with the POSSIBLE (but, in my opinion doubtful) exception of some 1970-72 with ZR-1. However, beginning in 1975, small blocks with FE-7 HD suspension did have a rear sway bar. It was a different and smaller OD bar than was used for 65-74 big blocks, though.
                              Exactly Joe,
                              Our 75 is a FE-7 car and had the rear bar, HD shocks and springs.

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