Chevrolet Styling/Engineering Tag

[Mark R.]

When visiting Mike Yager's www.mygaragemuseum.com web site, I noticed a 1964 Styling Corvette as part of his collection. This car retains an original Engineering Department tag located next to the VIN tag just under the glove box. Were these tags used by both Engineering and Styling ? Did all Corvettes, which spent time in these departments, receive one of these tags ? Any information will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Mark

[Steven B.]

Re: Chevrolet Styling/Engineering Tag

I assume GM/Chevy used the same type of tags for all lines and models??? My parents bought a new '86 Caprice wagon from the showroom floor in Colorado. On the far upper left of the windshield was an clear adhesive sticker that said "Property of Chevrolet Engineering" in a grass green color with a green border. The sticker was about 3 inches long and 1 inch tall. I was going to remove the sticker and keep it but unfortunatley forgot at trade-in time. The car was white with green cloth interior and had ABS on it! 'Found that out when it had a brake problem. The dealer tried to order parts for the brakes and Chevy came back stating the car was not supposed to have left GM ownership and offered to buy it back. 'Said no and finally GM sent parts for the ABS---with no part numbers or identification of any kind. It had a 307 and consistently got 27 MPG, 25 with the air on at 75-80 MPH. It was a great car and may still be in the Dallas area, unfortunatley probably in a junk yard.

[Eric J.]

Re: Chevrolet Styling/Engineering Tag

like this one....

[Steven B.]

Re: Chevrolet Styling/Engineering Tag

like this one....

Hi Eric! Not at all. The one on the Caprice was long and short, had no numbers on it, just the Chev. Eng., was clear with print and border in green. At first I thought the car was just assigned to ng. as transportation but since the proto. ABS was installed and the MPG was constantly higher than other wagons knew there was a difference. I do not recall timing, etc. specs. but I do remember the timing was not set to the specs. in the manual. The car ran and stopped perfect. It also had air shocks in back. It had all options except the fake wood on the side.

What is your sticker from?

[Eric J.]

Re: Chevrolet Styling/Engineering Tag

Steven, It's from the Purple 1989 ZR-1. It was a press/media test car. I assume the "PR" in the code is for you know "PR".. Not sure though. I am still researching it's past. Eric

[Art A.]

Re: Chevrolet Styling/Engineering Tag

Were these tags used by both Engineering and Styling ?

You don't say what the tag says, but the Chevrolet Engineering and GM Styling Design Studio tags would be different.

Did all Corvettes, which spent time in these departments, receive one of these tags ?

No, Just special vehicles, that were created by a Build Work Order , or an EX vehicle, etc.

[Art A.]

Re: Chevrolet Styling/Engineering Tag

like this one....

Eric, This is the tag that was put on all of the Chevrolet Engineering Fleet vehicles when they were put into service within Chevrolet. The 9 represents the model year and the 110 is just a sequence number. sorry, but I can't remember what the PR stands for. This tag was to be removed when the vehicle went up for sale.

[Tyler T.]

Re: Chevrolet Styling/Engineering Tag

I do not think that this was an engineering fleet vehicle, they used different decals. I think it is a press/marketing vehicle and that is what the PR stands for.

Here is the engineering equilivant.
Engineering sticker looks like this. The number was also present on the key fob and hood.

http://www.deliquescence.net/~tyler/prototype/p8y087tag.jpg

http://www.deliquescence.net/~tyler/prototype/88hood.jpg

P=prototype
8=production year
Y=Corvette
087=sequence number
It is this number that engineering used to keep track on the individual car. I have seen a copy of a 'car build book' used for the 86 component cars used by Lotus for initial engine fitment and testing. These were stock 86 body cars that were shipped sans driveline to England for engine fitment and testing. The first 'production ZR-1s' were built in May June 87 on the 87 line with 88 vins.
To keep track of the specific part they used labels like this.

http://www.deliquescence.net/~tyler/prototype/engtag.jpg

This delineated the engineering change with the associated drawings and was also recorded on the assembly documents.

Eric, earlier I suggested you contact Minniker for info but based on the sticker you posted I would suggest someone in marketing. If it is like engineering they used that number to refer to the car rather than vin or license number.

Tyler

[John D.]

Re: Chevrolet Styling/Engineering Tag

Eric,
You may already know this but the "CPC" stands for Chevrolet-Pontiac-Canada Group which was a division of GM back then..

jd

[Art A.]

Re: Chevrolet Styling/Engineering Tag

I do not think that this was an engineering fleet vehicle, they used different decals. I think it is a press/marketing vehicle and that is what the PR stands for.

Here is the engineering equilivant.
Engineering sticker looks like this. The number was also present on the key fob and hood.
http://www.deliquescence.net/~tyler/.../p8y087tag.jpg
http://www.deliquescence.net/~tyler/...ype/88hood.jpg
P=prototype
8=production year
Y=Corvette
087=sequence number
It is this number that engineering used to keep track on the individual car. I have seen a copy of a 'car build book' used for the 86 component cars used by Lotus for initial engine fitment and testing. These were stock 86 body cars that were shipped sans driveline to England for engine fitment and testing. The first 'production ZR-1s' were built in May June 87 on the 87 line with 88 vins.
To keep track of the specific part they used labels like this.
http://www.deliquescence.net/~tyler/...ype/engtag.jpg
This delineated the engineering change with the associated drawings and was also recorded on the assembly documents.

Eric, earlier I suggested you contact Minniker for info but based on the sticker you posted I would suggest someone in marketing. If it is like engineering they used that number to refer to the car rather than vin or license number.

Tyler

Tyler, How long did you work for Chevrolet Engineering? I don't recall seeing you in the halls.

[Tyler T.]

Re: Chevrolet Styling/Engineering Tag

Tyler, How long did you work for Chevrolet Engineering? I don't recall see you in the halls.

That was uncalled for, if you note Eric's decal does not have the word engineering on it as does the one I posted earlier and this one.

http://www.deliquescence.net/~tyler/prototype/p0y125.jpg

which was off a 90 active suspension car. Call your old office and ask if the cars released to engineering had tags like that posted by Eric.

Tyler

[Tom D.]

Re: Chevrolet Styling/Engineering Tag

When visiting the Sloan Museum (or the annex) in Flint, Michigan, check out the "AC" sticker on the black and white '55 Buick. I think the car was used by Harlow Curtice.

Now where did I put that photo... Will check my facts the next time I go there. Probably re-take the photo too.

/td

[Art A.]

Re: Chevrolet Styling/Engineering Tag

That was uncalled for, if you note Eric's decal does not have the word engineering on it as does the one I posted earlier and this one.

http://www.deliquescence.net/~tyler/prototype/p0y125.jpg

which was off a 90 active suspension car. Call your old office and ask if the cars released to engineering had tags like that posted by Eric.

Tyler

Uncalled for...............maybe, but I get so frustrated when I read statements that I know are conjecture and not fact, but are stated as gospel truth.

[Mark R.]

Re: Chevrolet Styling/Engineering Tag

I really appreciate the information that has been shared regarding Styling and Engineering identification tags.

None of identification stickers presented for discussion resemble the metal tag displayed on the 1964 Styling Corvette from Mike Yager's collection.

My interest is in learning more about the Styling and Engineering identification tags used on the mid-year Corvettes.

Once agin, thanks for your assistance gaining information on this subject.

Mark

[Mark R.]

Re: Chevrolet Styling/Engineering Tag

Were these tags used by both Engineering and Styling ?

You don't say what the tag says, but the Chevrolet Engineering and GM Styling Design Studio tags would be different.

Did all Corvettes, which spent time in these departments, receive one of these tags ?

No, Just special vehicles, that were created by a Build Work Order , or an EX vehicle, etc.

Art:

In the lower right corner of this photo is the tag identified by www.mygaragemuseum.com as the Engineering Department tag found on the 1964 Styling Corvette.



Can you share some further information about Corvettes, which spent time in either the Engineering or Styling department and did not receive one of these tags. Could a vehicle be shipped from the St. Louis assembly plant to these departments in Michigan without paperwork /a specific work order ? And would a "work order" be the same as a "Build Work Order" ? And what would become of these vehicles when Styling or Engineering were done using them ?

I sincerely appreciate your insight into this issue.

Many thanks,
Mark