1965-67 Big Block Dipstick
I just watched an original 1965-67 big block dipstick go for $360.55 on ebay. Are the current reproductions (with the salmon button and no dimple) not good enough to receive full credit during judging?
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In Appreciation of John Hinckley -
Re: 1965-67 Big Block Dipstick
John;
That is right, the reproduction 1965 dip sticks are not totally correct. My recollection is the slight indentation on the handle itself is what gives it away. I've bought two repros, one from Paragon and one from LI Corvette (who listed it as 100% correct), both were the same and both got picked up in judging.
The deduction was one point as I recall, so you get back to that discussion as to how much do incremental points really cost......
Regards,
JoelComment
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Re: 1965-67 Big Block Dipstick
The 1965 396 oil dipstick is wider then the 1966 - 1968 and yes passenger car uses the same part, Im not sure about the repo I havent seen one in 10 or so years...Thanks JOHNComment
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John this is a picture of my original 67 BB dip stick. Bill
Bill Lacy
1967 427/435 National Top Flight Bloomington Gold
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Re: 1965-67 Big Block Dipstick photo of repro LICS
here is a photo of our repro -
LICS #38-24f 396/427 repro dipstick.
(re the post on diffent width - we have seen both widths used in 65)
comparison of all dipsticks with photos: (63-67)
http://licorvette.com/oil_dipsticks.htmComment
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Re: 1965-67 Big Block Dipstick photo of repro LICS
"re the post on diffent width - we have seen both widths used in 65"
EXCELLENT observation/comment, Richard! I'll bet this was a purchased part and, in keeping with GM policy, there was more than one active/qualified supplier with subtle differences between the different sources...
This is an aspect of originality judging that is often missed by NCRS folks who primarily rely on observations of original parts from 'untouched' cars. Quite frequently owners hear comments to the effect, "All of the originals I've seen..." but the bigger issue is whether you've seen them all Mr. Judge!
It's a thorny issue with NO full/complete resolution. But, I try to keep an open mind when I make those judgement calls....Comment
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Re: 1965-67 Big Block Dipstick photo of repro LICS
Hi Jack;
I guess I am still a bit of a novice when it comes to judging... or more appropriately questioning a judge's decision on a particular item.... From this forum I have learned a lot including today's lesson on 1965 dipsticks! I might just quote you next time I have my 1965 judged!
Best Regards,
JoelComment
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Re: 1965-67 Big Block Dipstick
I was watching that eBay listing (link follows); be your own judge:
I could'a been a serious player up to (say) $25
. Just too many things didn't strike me right. Multiple handle crimps; loop not closed enough; stampings on oil end looked crooked; as if hit character-by-character. (just a thought, but is there enough "meat" for shortening the service or post-'67 (?) stick, then re-stamping ? Pink button (heat-aged red) means nothing (easily switched).
As far as 396's, part of the problem is that the '65 TIM&JG does not describe the width or the text (embossed/stamped), as is done for the characters on small blocks.Last edited by Wayne M.; February 10, 2009, 08:57 PM.Comment
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Not Even Close!Bill Clupper #618Comment
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WOW - I guess I should go through my sticks one of these days.
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Re: 1965-67 Big Block Dipstick
John-----
There were at least two and, possibly, three different part numbers used for 1965 L-78 dipsticks. The AIM indicates that dipstick GM #3866720 may have been used on very early cars. Whether or not it ever actually got into PRODUCTION I do not know. Later cars received dipstick GM #3860316. The AIM indicates that this dipstick was also used for 1966 and early 1967.
Other GM information indicates that dipstick GM #3860318 was used for 1965 L-78 as well as 1966 L-72.
Regardless of how many different dipsticks were originally used, WITHIN any of the part numbers could have been slight variations, either as a result of changes to the specifications for that part number, optional construction specified on the blue print for the part, or otherwise allowable manufacturing variations (i.e. a blue print spells out what design/features must be on a part but does not specify what cannot be present).
As to how the three part numbers described above differ, the 3860318 was a chrome-handle version of the 3860316. I've NEVER seen one of these on a PRODUCTION big block. I kind of doubt they were ever used. As far as the differences between the 3866720 and the 3860316, I know not. I do know that the 3866720 was never available in SERVICE and that MAY or MAY NOT imply that it was never actually used in PRODUCTION.In Appreciation of John HinckleyComment
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There you go Jeff, there may be a fortune in that trash can full of dip sticks, you never know. Greetings from sunny southern californiaComment
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Jeff, Any 63 HHP sticks in that grab bag. If so and it is available email me. Now I don't know what button I pushed to make this slanted type
Left bottom side of keyboard???.Comment
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John;
I think you were just falling off your chair at the sight of all those Dip Sticks. Looks like Jeff is gearing up for some mid-year war. Jeff, got any spears in there?
Stu FoxComment
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