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  • Jeffrey A.
    Expired
    • October 22, 2006
    • 273

    Water Pump Hose Fitting

    Attached is a picture of the current water pump fitting on my engine. My car is a late 63 coupe with a 327/300hp powerglide (w/o A/C). In reviewing my judging Sheet from from this past year the judge mark this off as being incorrect. Can anyone tell me was this is incorrect and if so and you post a picture of the correct fitting, so I may review it start looking for one. Thanks
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  • Mike M.
    Director Region V
    • August 31, 1994
    • 1463

    #2
    Re: Water Pump Hose Fitting

    Hello Jeffrey,
    Since no one apparently wants be the first, I'll kick it off.
    If memory serves, the "Wrenchable" section of the fitting should be about half again as long as the one pictured.
    HaND

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    • Joe L.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • February 1, 1988
      • 43219

      #3
      Re: Water Pump Hose Fitting

      Originally posted by Mike Murray (25129)
      Hello Jeffrey,
      Since no one apparently wants be the first, I'll kick it off.
      If memory serves, the "Wrenchable" section of the fitting should be about half again as long as the one pictured.
      HaND
      Mike and Jeffrey-----


      You're thinking of A/C-equipped cars. The heater hose nipple for these cars had a hex that was about 1/4" in length. The nipple for cars without C-60 had a hex that was about 7/8" in length. However, I would not be surprised if these nipples were actually used interchangeably in PRODUCTION. I really see no reason, at all, for the difference in hex lengths and, consequently, I would sort of expect that the folks on the line at St. Louis were not too careful about it, either.

      However, the fitting pictured appears to be configured like NEITHER of the fittings originally used. So, that may be why it received a point deduction.

      Both of the original fittings are easily available in reproduction for about 10 bucks. They may differ from originals, though, with respect to nuances of configuration.
      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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      • Mike M.
        Director Region V
        • August 31, 1994
        • 1463

        #4
        Re: Water Pump Hose Fitting

        Thanks Joe. You more eloquently stated what I had tried to.
        HaND

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        • Michael H.
          Expired
          • January 29, 2008
          • 7477

          #5
          Re: Water Pump Hose Fitting

          Originally posted by Jeffrey Aiello (46414)
          Attached is a picture of the current water pump fitting on my engine. My car is a late 63 coupe with a 327/300hp powerglide (w/o A/C). In reviewing my judging Sheet from from this past year the judge mark this off as being incorrect. Can anyone tell me was this is incorrect and if so and you post a picture of the correct fitting, so I may review it start looking for one. Thanks
          Jeffrey,

          Below is a picture of the correct 3736495 fitting that should be on your 63. Paragon Corvette Parts sells this fitting.
          By the way, it was cadmium or zinc plated and should be installed without being painted orange.
          (the fuel pump mounting plate should also be unpainted)
          Last edited by Michael H.; March 10, 2009, 10:20 PM.

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          • Mike M.
            Director Region V
            • August 31, 1994
            • 1463

            #6
            Re: Water Pump Hose Fitting

            Thank you, Michael.
            Yes, the original would have been unplated zinc.
            Jeffrey, I should have mentioned that the entry explaning this deduction for the nipple on your Judging sheet may have/should have an "Non-Typical Prioduction - Finish"
            or, NTP-Fin. or just "NTP-F", or words to that effect.
            Hopes this helps.
            HaND

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            • Jeffrey A.
              Expired
              • October 22, 2006
              • 273

              #7
              Re: Water Pump Hose Fitting

              Mike/michael and Joe

              Thank you very much for you help. Now when I trying to find the correct fitting I know what to look for. thanks again. My search continues.

              Take Care
              Jeff

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              • Jeffrey A.
                Expired
                • October 22, 2006
                • 273

                #8
                Re: Water Pump Hose Fitting

                Mike and or Michael

                Attached is a picture fittings from a gentlemen I have bought thing from before. It is true that the left one is correct for my car. Listed below is the statement his emailed to me. I should want to make sure I do the right thing

                Thanks - Jeff

                "The fitting on the left side is supposed to be the correct one. It has two notches which were created by the machine used to install it at the Chevrolet factory"
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                • Dale S.
                  Expired
                  • November 12, 2007
                  • 1224

                  #9
                  Re: Water Pump Hose Fitting

                  And the one on the far right is correct for my 67 SB C-60 car. correct? Just making sure. Dale

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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • February 1, 1988
                    • 43219

                    #10
                    Re: Water Pump Hose Fitting

                    Originally posted by Dale Schafer (48165)
                    And the one on the far right is correct for my 67 SB C-60 car. correct? Just making sure. Dale
                    Dale----


                    Yes.
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                    • Joe L.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • February 1, 1988
                      • 43219

                      #11
                      Re: Water Pump Hose Fitting

                      Originally posted by Jeffrey Aiello (46414)
                      Mike and or Michael

                      Attached is a picture fittings from a gentlemen I have bought thing from before. It is true that the left one is correct for my car. Listed below is the statement his emailed to me. I should want to make sure I do the right thing

                      Thanks - Jeff

                      "The fitting on the left side is supposed to be the correct one. It has two notches which were created by the machine used to install it at the Chevrolet factory"
                      Jeff-----


                      As far as general configuration goes, the one on the left and the one in the center are correct for your application. As far as the notches go, I'm not so sure. These notches are one of the "nuances" I referred to in my previous post. I don't think they were caused by the machine that installed them, mostly because I've seen them on NOS fittings which were NEVER installed. So, is one, two, or three sets of notches correct? I have absolutely no idea.
                      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                      • Jeffrey A.
                        Expired
                        • October 22, 2006
                        • 273

                        #12
                        Re: Water Pump Hose Fitting

                        Joe/Dale

                        thank you very much taking the time in explaning what it correct and your opinions, its been very helpful for me

                        Thanks - Jeff

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                        • Mike M.
                          Director Region V
                          • August 31, 1994
                          • 1463

                          #13
                          Re: Water Pump Hose Fitting

                          Hi Jeff
                          As usual, Joe is spot on.
                          FWIW, I don't remember seeing or hearing of these original fittings with anything but a single set of notches.
                          HaND

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                          • Jeffrey A.
                            Expired
                            • October 22, 2006
                            • 273

                            #14
                            Re: Water Pump Hose Fitting

                            Hi Mike

                            thanks for the confirmation.

                            Jeff

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                            • Rick S.
                              Expired
                              • January 1, 2003
                              • 1203

                              #15
                              Re: Water Pump Hose Fitting

                              Mike,
                              In regards to the notches, there are 2 notches on my 67 small block, no AC. I believe the fitting is original.
                              Rick

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