1969 Firewall Blackout details

[John M.]

I have a few uncertainties on detailing some hardware items on the firewall of my 69. (photos provided for clarity)

1. The steering shaft I presume to be natural Steel, but the Upper Collar, spring, mounting bracket and attachment tab on the Reverse Lockout mechanism?

2. The hardware pertaining to the Wiper Door mechanism?

3. The Oval Cups and bolts used for Wiper Door mounting?

4. Beyond the inner Fenders, whether the actual inside of the fender itself was painted Black, or left natural.

Any help on these few little details is greatly appreciated.

[John M.]

Re: 1969 Firewall Blackout details

Also, as a side note, an interesting marking of "324" beneath the passenger side White Nylon shield.

I get to mark up the firewall with some Crayon after all.

[Keith L.]

Re: 1969 Firewall Blackout details

Maybe just clean it carefully and leave it as is in that area where the crayon marking is.

[Michael B.]

Re: 1969 Firewall Blackout details

That would be your job number. Your VIN should end in either 324 or 824.

[John M.]

Re: 1969 Firewall Blackout details

Actually, it ends in 745. hhhm.

Also found "116" on the inside of the rear valance by the licence plate cutout, and a yellow "X" on the fiberglass tub on an area in front of the Gas tank on the passenger side.

Also a Yellow paint dab on the steering linkage that looks like it was slopped on with a 8" Exterior House Brush.

Neat stuff.

[Terry M.]

Re: 1969 Firewall Blackout details

This is the best I could do from my files, but I thought I had something on the wiper door interlock (photo #2) but I can't find it now.

When judging the firewall I always look for the sealant behind the mounting detail for the wiper door mechanism. It surprises me how often it is missing on restored cars.

[John M.]

Re: 1969 Firewall Blackout details

Interesting, so it appears the "cups" are unpainted, but the original finish is in question. Maybe simply stamped steel?

[Terry B.]

Re: 1969 Firewall Blackout details

John,

Here is what I started with in restoring my '68 firewall in 2006. Let me know what speicific areas you need to see completed and I will go out and take a picture.

Terry

[Terry B.]

Re: 1969 Firewall Blackout details

Here are more pictures I found on the firewall restoration of my '68. I will take shots of what you need and post later.

Terry

[Alan S.]

Re: 1969 Firewall Blackout details

Hi John,
I've often wondered about a suitable replacement for the sealer behind the reinforcement cups for the wiper mechanism. (Your#3 and Terry's picture.)
The AIM shows a rectangular sheet for that item number. (I realize the drawing isn't always reliable). Terry's photo looks like a sheet with the corners curled up.
The part number, 3966668, is just simply called 'sealer', in my parts book, but it does say 3 are required, which makes me think it came as an item, not in a tube, can, or roll. Is there any clue as to what the seal was like left on the back of your 'cups' or on the firewall?
The cups on my 71 didn't seem to be painted, but were heavily coated with a thick, black, shiny, hard sealer that is seen other places on the firewall such as sealing the fasteners for the heater/ blower assembly. It looks like it was soft when applied and then got harder as dried.
Sorry for more questions than answers.
Regards,
Alan

[Rich P.]

Re: 1969 Firewall Blackout details

I believe it to be the same as strip caulk, just rolled out flat with the stud holes punched out. When I reassemble the cups I put a bead of black 3M strip caulk around the back of the cup and it gives a authentic looking squish.

Rich

[Terry M.]

Re: 1969 Firewall Blackout details

I always look for that sealer behind the cups and the semi-liquid sealer on the grommets. I judged one car that had some reasonably good looking sealer behind the cups and the owner told me he used the heavier felt paper (I think that is 30# paper) and a heat gun to roll the edges. I suspect the roll of the edges comes from engine heat, but the photos of my car when new don't show that detail. "If I only knew then what I know now."

BTW: That picture I posted is of my 1970.

[John M.]

Re: 1969 Firewall Blackout details

I guess this leaves the following questions unclear on my part:

1. The steering shaft I presume to be natural Steel, but the Upper Collar, spring, mounting bracket and attachment tab on the Reverse Lockout mechanism?

2. The hardware pertaining to the Wiper Door mechanism?

4. Beyond the inner Fenders, whether the actual inside of the fender itself was painted Black, or left natural.

[Joseph K.]

Re: 1969 Firewall Blackout details

I have a few uncertainties on detailing some hardware items on the firewall of my 69. (photos provided for clarity)

1. The steering shaft I presume to be natural Steel, but the Upper Collar, spring, mounting bracket and attachment tab on the Reverse Lockout mechanism?

2. The hardware pertaining to the Wiper Door mechanism?

3. The Oval Cups and bolts used for Wiper Door mounting?

4. Beyond the inner Fenders, whether the actual inside of the fender itself was painted Black, or left natural.

Any help on these few little details is greatly appreciated.

John ,

Did you get answers to your questions? I am interested in the answers. the way I read it is the cups were steel but I didn't see answers to the rest of your questions.

Joe

Joe

[Alan S.]

Re: 1969 Firewall Blackout details

Hi John,
On your fender question, #4.
On my 71, #6589, the inside of the fender itself was MOSTLY natural.
The rear side of the inner wheel well had a little blackout on it, but the blackout didn't extend all the way to the joint with the fender itself. As I started to take take blackout off the rear of the wheel well, I ran into some exterior color which made me realize the blackout had been sprayed just enough to cover the exterior over-spray that had come through the side grill opening. For example, there was no exterior color or blackout beyond where the wiper door relay mounts on my 71's wheel well, it was just bare fiberglass.
Regards,
Alan