Any comments on 70 LT-1 for sale?

[Reba W.]

Re: Any comments on 70 LT-1 for sale?

I have judged numerous cars where we had to look at the "G" in a build date from many angles and play with light across it to see the slight crossbar that forms the letter. Don't expect to see that in a photo. That is the reason the note has been added to the updated judging guides.

[Robert S.]

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Its interesting that you note that experienced judges have difficulty correctly reading the "C" or "G". I read the note in the judging manual, but I didn't realize that this was a very common occurrence.

[Kenneth H.]

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I saved the picture of the trim tag to my local drive, opened it with Picture Editor and then zoomed in on the date. I don't see any indication whatsoever that the letter is anything other than a "C". It's real clear when you zoom in. Try it and tell me what you think. I've attached a cropped version of the picture.

[Terry M.]

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Don't look for a crossbar. Instead look at the height of the opening on the right side. Compare a C to a G stamp.

[Robert S.]

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Ken, I convinced myself that I saw something on the bottom leg of the C to make it a G, but after looking at your photo its hard to say for sure because of what appears to be shadows.

Below is a link to photos a 71 LT-1. A real good photo of the trim tag is shown. The "G" is very clear in this case.

http://64.17.169.186/inventory/71_orange_lt1_386.htm

I guess another question is were the trim tag stampings more clear for some years, or is it just a random thing?

Bob

[Kenneth H.]

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Sorry about the picture that I posted. It isn't very good for seeing detail. It's better if you go the link identified in the first post, save the picture to your PC and then view it in a photo editor.

By the way, I'm not saying that it's definitely a "C", I'm just saying that it sure doesn't LOOK like a "G" to me. But I'm just a novice who's trying to learn, and there are a lot of guys on this forum with worlds more experience and knowledge than me. I'm trying to learn from all of you. Thanks.

[William C.]

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I've tried to place the VIN stamps from the pad and trans close together, and also match up the '70 trim tag with the known "G" tag shown. Remember the vin stamps were the same tool used for both, and the trim tags at worst made on the same machine. There are some bothersome (at least to me if I were looking) discrepancies to be seen, welcome your thoughts...

[Warren F.]

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After reading Terry's comment to look at the height of the bottom portion of the letter C & G, you can definitely see in Robert's link of the '71 LT-1 trim tag that the height is much higher for the bottom portion of the letter G.
I agree with Ken's assessment, that the trim tag view he shows is definitely a letter C. There is quite a difference when viewing this trim tag letter and the '71 trim tag letter.

[Reba W.]

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The 1970 looks like a C for sure.

[Robert S.]

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The transmission build date on the 70 is June 26, and it has the VIN as shown on the dash. So, a "C" does raise questions. I know nothing about transmission stamps, but it would seem not probably to change one. Is the one shown typical with the code and VIN sections overlapping?

[William C.]

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Typical of an assembly line worker at St Louis that didn't watch what he was doing. The differences between the characteristics of the engine stamp and the trans stamp are pretty clear, and I believe they should be identical? The engine is a lot more problematical than the trans. IMHO

[Warren F.]

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Robert,

I wouldn't say that it is typical to see the transmission assembly stamping overlapping the VIN stamping. It does happen, but it is not typical for it to do so.

[Paul O.]

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The one thing that stands out to me is the right side rivet the shape of the rivet head and the tail still showing is not normal to me. The head shape maybe caused by the lighting but looking at the area around that rivet head my opinion is that rivet has been replaced. I maybe wrong but thats what I see do others see that. Paul 18046

[Robert S.]

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I also noticed that rivet. But I just didn't know if that would be normal or not. Just looking at photos of trim tags on other cars, none that I found look like that one.

[Robert M.]

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There is a photo (#38) of the open driver side door. On the pillar, i do not see a door guide pin receiver. But in photo #39 of the pass door, a guide pin is shown.