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  • Curt C.
    Frequent User
    • May 31, 2000
    • 49

    Alternator adjustment bolt

    What is correct bolt configuration for a 1966 alternator? Bolt, lock washer and thick washer or bolt, star washer and thick washer. How about for a 1964? Thanks.
  • John H.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • December 1, 1997
    • 16513

    #2
    Re: Alternator adjustment bolt

    Curt -

    '65-6-7 all use the same split lock washer under the bolt head.

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    • Joe L.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • February 1, 1988
      • 43202

      #3
      Re: Alternator adjustment bolt

      Originally posted by Curt Carter (34207)
      What is correct bolt configuration for a 1966 alternator? Bolt, lock washer and thick washer or bolt, star washer and thick washer. How about for a 1964? Thanks.
      Curt----

      For 1966, it's bolt, external tooth star washer, and thick flat washer. For 1964 it's the same order, but I think a split lock washer was used instead of a star washer.
      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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      • Joe C.
        Expired
        • August 31, 1999
        • 4598

        #4
        Re: Alternator adjustment bolt

        Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
        Curt -

        '65-6-7 all use the same split lock washer under the bolt head.
        The 1965 Judging Manual has it as a star washer. Which is correct?

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        • Gary S.
          Super Moderator
          • February 1, 1984
          • 457

          #5
          Re: Alternator adjustment bolt

          I have lots of pictures of orig alternator adjust bolts/washers...but no 64's. Toothed washer seems most used for 65, 66 and 67. I do have one 65 with a split and another 67 with a split washer. Attached are what appears to be original pictures...one of each year...65, 66, 67. Gary
          Attached Files
          Avatar--My first ever vette, owned 3X since 1977, restored 1993-2024. Top Flight Award 9/14/24

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          • Joel T.
            Expired
            • April 30, 2005
            • 765

            #6
            Re: Alternator adjustment bolt

            I recently had my 1965 judged and lost 1 point because I had the split washer as opposed to the star washer.... My understanding is that 63-64 used the split and 65-67 used the star.....

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            • Michael H.
              Expired
              • January 29, 2008
              • 7477

              #7
              Re: Alternator adjustment bolt

              Originally posted by Joel Talka (43778)
              I recently had my 1965 judged and lost 1 point because I had the split washer as opposed to the star washer.... My understanding is that 63-64 used the split and 65-67 used the star.....
              For 63, the AIM calls for a 187119, L washer. It's described in other GM doc as a split lock washer, medium.

              For 66 with 327, the AIM calls for a 138485, external tooth lock washer.
              For 66 with 427, The AIM calls for a 187119, split lock washer.

              Small block and big block were different for 66???

              What part numbers are shown in the 64, 65 and 67 AIM's?
              Last edited by Michael H.; November 6, 2008, 09:35 AM.

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              • Terry M.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • September 30, 1980
                • 15584

                #8
                Re: Alternator adjustment bolt

                FWIW We expect to see a toothed washer on 1968 and early 1969, with a split lock washer after that.
                Terry

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                • Gary S.
                  Super Moderator
                  • February 1, 1984
                  • 457

                  #9
                  Re: Alternator adjustment bolt

                  Originally posted by Joel Talka (43778)
                  I recently had my 1965 judged and lost 1 point because I had the split washer as opposed to the star washer.... My understanding is that 63-64 used the split and 65-67 used the star.....
                  For what it is worth, here are 3 pictures of very original cars with split washers. Always a chance the lock washer could have been changed, but the thick washer and bolt look original as does the split lock washer. These are from a 65 fuel car Vin 11774, 65 396 car vin 15726 survivor and a 67 427/400 AC coupe vin 20460. The 396 pictures when enlarged looks to be a split washer. So the question is, was the toothed washer really used 100% of the time. Also, in my prior post of 3 pictures, the toothed washer has squared ends unlike the pointed end lock washers the supply houses send you.

                  Gary
                  Attached Files
                  Avatar--My first ever vette, owned 3X since 1977, restored 1993-2024. Top Flight Award 9/14/24

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                  • Timothy B.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • April 30, 1983
                    • 5179

                    #10
                    Re: Alternator adjustment bolt

                    My 67 corvette has a external tooth washer at this location and the part # called out in the 1967 AIM is 138485. The 1963 washer in the AIM is as Mike posted.

                    What's interesting is that the washer called out in section 12 page A-7 for the 63 horn mounting is 138485 and we know the horn bolt is 5/16" (same size as alternator) and the horns ground at the core support to work properly so I think it's safe to say star washer here and lock washer at alternator for 63.

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                    • Joe C.
                      Expired
                      • August 31, 1999
                      • 4598

                      #11
                      Re: Alternator adjustment bolt

                      Originally posted by Michael Hanson (4067)
                      For 63, the AIM calls for a 18711, L washer. It's described in other GM doc as a split lock washer, medium.

                      For 66, the AIM calls for a 138485, L washer. It's described as an external tooth washer.

                      What part numbers are shown in the 64, 65 and 67 AIM's?
                      1965 AIM:

                      SBC: 138485 #*
                      #: Note 1 (6/26/64): Was 187119 (?partially unreadable)

                      396: 187119 *
                      * FWIW all lock washers shown in both drawings appear to be split

                      SO,FOR SBC 1964-1965 BUILT AFTER 6/26/64, THERE WAS A CHANGE IN WASHER FROM SPLIT TO STAR. NEED VERIFICATION OF PART NUMBER!!
                      FOR BBC (ALL) WASHER WAS 187119 (SPLIT)
                      Last edited by Joe C.; November 6, 2008, 09:21 AM.

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                      • Michael H.
                        Expired
                        • January 29, 2008
                        • 7477

                        #12
                        Re: Alternator adjustment bolt

                        Originally posted by Joe Ciaravino (32899)
                        1965 AIM:

                        SBC: 138485 #*
                        #: Note 1 (6/26/64): Was 187119 (?partially unreadable)

                        396: 187119 *
                        * FWIW all lock washers shown in both drawings appear to be split

                        SO,FOR SBC 1964-1965 BUILT AFTER 6/26/64, THERE WAS A CHANGE IN WASHER FROM SPLIT TO STAR. NEED VERIFICATION OF PART NUMBER!!
                        FOR BBC (ALL) WASHER WAS 187119 (SPLIT)
                        If the 65-66 AIM's are accurate, 65 and 66 big blocks used a split lock washer and 65-66 small blocks used an external tooth washer.

                        For what it's worth, my 66 big block has a split lock washer. It doesn't have the orig alternator but I believe the bolt and washers are probably original.

                        Still like to hear what's shown in both SB and BB sections of the 67 AIM.

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                        • John H.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • December 1, 1997
                          • 16513

                          #13
                          Re: Alternator adjustment bolt

                          I'd correct my earlier post, but there's no "edit" button available. '65-'6-'7 small-blocks all used the same 138485 external-tooth star washer under the bolt head; same one that's used on the washer nozzles and under the head of the C60 passenger side horn bolt for the ground wire.

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                          • Gerard F.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • June 30, 2004
                            • 3803

                            #14
                            Re: Alternator adjustment bolt

                            Michael,

                            The 67 JG calls out an external tooth star washer for both small block and big block. My late 67 S/B with my original alternator, and I believe original bolt setup, has an external tooth star washer under the head of the bolt and a thick flat washer under.

                            The bolt head marking is a "NAT" within 3 spokes, which varies from the callout in the JG.

                            Wonder if there there are other 67's with the "NAT" head markings
                            Jerry Fuccillo
                            1967 327/300 Convertible since 1968

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                            • Michael H.
                              Expired
                              • January 29, 2008
                              • 7477

                              #15
                              Re: Alternator adjustment bolt

                              Originally posted by Gerard Fuccillo (42179)
                              Michael,

                              The 67 JG calls out an external tooth star washer for both small block and big block. My late 67 S/B with my original alternator, and I believe original bolt setup, has an external tooth star washer under the head of the bolt and a thick flat washer under.

                              The bolt head marking is a "NAT" within 3 spokes, which varies from the callout in the JG.

                              Wonder if there there are other 67's with the "NAT" head markings
                              Thanks Jerry. I wonder what the 67 AIM shows for big block?

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