gas prices 1919-2003

[Ray G.]

Hello

Interesting fact.

Ray

[Clem Z.]

Re: gas prices 1919-2003

Hello

Interesting fact.

Ray

allowing for inflation gasoline should be somewhere close to $2.25/$2.50 a gallon. remember the gasoline tax has also went up

[Jim D.]

Re: gas prices 1919-2003

allowing for inflation gasoline should be somewhere close to $2.25/$2.50 a gallon. remember the gasoline tax has also went up

We have the 4th highest gas tax in the nation and that's what we're paying here in Washington State.

[Joe L.]

Re: gas prices 1919-2003

Hello

Interesting fact.

Ray

Ray-----


Absolutely. This graph shows exactly what I've said on numerous previous occasions: during the 1990s the price of gasoline in INFLATION-ADJUSTED terms made it the cheapest it's EVER been. That's what "fueled" the widespread popularity of "gas-hog" vehicles of ALL types.

[Stewart A.]

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It's crazy to think it's 2008 and we still use fossil fuels to burn in every car, boat, and ship. It just shows how greed can ruel the planet. I cannot
believe we have not changed over to clean electric in our every day cars. It just shows how much money and in bed the oil companies are with our governments. They make trillions a year out of taxes from this type of fuel and no one gives a sh....t about the pollution it creates and the out of pocket money we pay for this liquid.

[Clem Z.]

Re: gas prices 1919-2003

It's crazy to think it's 2008 and we still use fossil fuels to burn in every car, boat, and ship. It just shows how greed can ruel the planet. I cannot
believe we have not changed over to clean electric in our every day cars. It just shows how much money and in bed the oil companies are with our governments. They make trillions a year out of taxes from this type of fuel and no one gives a sh....t about the pollution it creates and the out of pocket money we pay for this liquid.

we need to burn coal,since we can't build any nuke plants, to make electric to charge the batteries so we just move the pollution from one place to another. also the govts have not figured out how to tax the electric you use to charge the batteries. since we own gas wells i wish they would come out with natural gas powered cars because we have hundered of thousands of cubic feet of free natural gas every years we do not use because our home is not were the wells are located. i could drive to the wells and "filler up"

[Joe L.]

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we need to burn coal,since we can't build any nuke plants, to make electric to charge the batteries so we just move the pollution from one place to another. also the govts have not figured out how to tax the electric you use to charge the batteries. since we own gas wells i wish they would come out with natural gas powered cars because we have hundered of thousands of cubic feet of free natural gas every years we do not use because our home is not were the wells are located. i could drive to the wells and "filler up"

clem-----


There are PLENTY of cars that use compressed natural gas (CNG) right now. It is widely used in British Columbia. Honda makes a Civic model that uses natural gas and you can go down to your Honda dealer and buy one right now. With a special kit, you can install a refueling station right in your home and refuel overnight. Commercial fueling stations can fuel much faster (3-5 minutes).

I once had an experimental Mazda van (on loan for a few weeks to the city I worked for ) which was a dedicated CNG vehicle. It performed just as well as its gasoline-fueled equivalent, maybe better. I later had an Astro Van used by the division I managed converted to dual fuel---CNG or gasoline. It didn't work out real well. That's because the engine needs to be optimized for either fuel rather than a "compromise". With CNG the engine can have much higher compression; an engine built for gasoline and converted to "dual fuel" doesn't have high compression and just doesn't work out well when converted. But, dedicated CNG works very well.

In California there are about 200 commercial filling locations for CNG so, even if one travels, if one plans refueling stops well, you can go anywhere.

[Paul J.]

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We had a CNG vehicle in the motor pool, and everyone was scared of it because there were only two places to fuel it in the State and nobody had any idea what the fuel mileage was. CNG has it's place in local fleet service and I believe it's gaining popularity.

I just need to go back and dig out my old plans for a portable nuclear reactor and make steam. If your into steam cars you should check out Jay Leno's garage web site and watch his videos on the steam cars. They are marvels of engineering.

Paul

[Joe L.]

Re: gas prices 1919-2003

We had a CNG vehicle in the motor pool, and everyone was scared of it because there were only two places to fuel it in the State and nobody had any idea what the fuel mileage was. CNG has it's place in local fleet service and I believe it's gaining popularity.

I just need to go back and dig out my old plans for a portable nuclear reactor and make steam. If your into steam cars you should check out Jay Leno's garage web site and watch his videos on the steam cars. They are marvels of engineering.

Paul

Paul-----


Range is definitely a limitation of CNG vehicles. The fuel tanks typically contain only the equivalent of about 8 gallons of gasoline. If one lives in a state or area with no or limited refueling options, CNG might be an unwise choice. However, with a home refueling station, a CNG vehicle can make a great commuter car as long as the daily commute is no more than 75 miles, or so, each way. The VAST majority of commutes are less than that. As refueling stations become more common, the options for venturing out become greater. I think you will see an increasing number of refueling stations. For one thing, the infrastructure to provide them is not that great and there's "0" concern about groundwater contamination from leaks, a BIG and EXPENSIVE problem with gasoline and diesel.

Another bonus for CNG: the engines run so clean that engines become nearly "immortal".

[Jay G.]

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Here in So. Colorado The gas reserves are enormous. Since the early 90's Evergreen Resources has been expanding their drilling in Las Animas County to the enth degree. Even if the Dems come in the exploration will continue. Our Gov. Ritter was interviewed on CNBC this AM telling the world Colorado is poised to be a player in the new energy boom. We've looked at land down there, be sure you own/share the mineral rights.

[Joe L.]

Re: gas prices 1919-2003

Here in So. Colorado The gas reserves are enormous. Since the early 90's Evergreen Resources has been expanding their drilling in Las Animas County to the enth degree. Even if the Dems come in the exploration will continue. Our Gov. Ritter was interviewed on CNBC this AM telling the world Colorado is poised to be a player in the new energy boom. We've looked at land down there, be sure you own/share the mineral rights.

Jay-----


The main thing that has concerned me for a long time about natural gas is long-term supply. Most, if not all, of the new power plants being built here in California are natural gas-fired. That will take a lot of gas for a lot of years.

Of course, they SAY that we have an abundance of natural gas. However, that's the same thing as they SAID about oil 40 years ago.

Right now, a lot of the natural gas we use is imported from Canada. Plus, a lot in the liquified form (LNG) is imported from the same middle eastern areas we get oil from.

[Jay G.]

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Joe, I agree. The amt of gas is finite. But in the overall scheme of things our politicians tend to think in their 50 plus yr. careers and voters lifespan. The amnt. of gas will be depleted if all the western states follow their NEW energy proposals. But its a start. The infastrucre is in place in our state. Now the ? is do we sell it correctly. Or give millions of CFS (Colorado River) Water Rights away like in the 30's to California. Ha, Ha.

[Clem Z.]

Re: gas prices 1919-2003

clem-----


There are PLENTY of cars that use compressed natural gas (CNG) right now. It is widely used in British Columbia. Honda makes a Civic model that uses natural gas and you can go down to your Honda dealer and buy one right now. With a special kit, you can install a refueling station right in your home and refuel overnight. Commercial fueling stations can fuel much faster (3-5 minutes).

I once had an experimental Mazda van (on loan for a few weeks to the city I worked for ) which was a dedicated CNG vehicle. It performed just as well as its gasoline-fueled equivalent, maybe better. I later had an Astro Van used by the division I managed converted to dual fuel---CNG or gasoline. It didn't work out real well. That's because the engine needs to be optimized for either fuel rather than a "compromise". With CNG the engine can have much higher compression; an engine built for gasoline and converted to "dual fuel" doesn't have high compression and just doesn't work out well when converted. But, dedicated CNG works very well.

In California there are about 200 commercial filling locations for CNG so, even if one travels, if one plans refueling stops well, you can go anywhere.

i don't think the honda is for sale in Pa and i would not buy a honda. the natural gas company vans around here have been converted to CNG

[John F.]

Re: gas prices 1919-2003

Our gas was $1.939 this morning for regular unleaded at Shell. Exxon had gas for $1.789 if you used their gas card. We are probably the lowest in the country and lowest in Texas right now. I am in Harlingen, TX.

[Bill C.]

Re: gas prices 1919-2003

on a related note ----------

BRING BACK LEADED GAS!