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  • Donald T.
    Expired
    • September 30, 2002
    • 1319

    Ebay buyer sued for negative feedback

    This is a little scary. Ebay buyer is being sued by a seller for negative feedback. I have had occasional problems buying and selling parts on ebay, but it has never involved litigation!

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  • Ridge K.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • May 31, 2006
    • 1018

    #2
    Re: Ebay buyer sued for negative feedback

    Donald, many experienced eBay sellers feel that eBay is slowing starting to fall into the downward swirling motion, that is reminiscent of when one flushes a toilet.


    How this affects Corvette owners, is that many, many sellers are now leaving eBay. What used to be a fairly competitive marketplace for vintage and NOS Corvette parts, will be much less competitive with fewer sellers willing to pay those PayPal fees (which average roughly 5% of the auction price, paid by the seller). The largest used auto parts seller of all time, terminated his seller account a couple of months ago. Look to see many more leaving very soon, along with more reports of problems such as the litigation you mentioned.
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    • William C.
      NCRS Past President
      • May 31, 1975
      • 6037

      #3
      Re: Ebay buyer sued for negative feedback

      I've used ebay for a long time, and I've never seen so many changes for the sake of change without any real benefit to buyers or sellers.
      Bill Clupper #618

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      • Gary S.
        Super Moderator
        • January 31, 1984
        • 457

        #4
        Re: Ebay buyer sued for negative feedback

        Ridge...I really appreciate your clear explanation of the problem. I have not used ebay since spring and have heard these complaints from others since then. It is too bad when a successful business crosses the line to become pigs. Gary
        Avatar--My first ever vette, owned 3X since 1977, restored 1993-2024. Top Flight Award 9/14/24

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        • Donald T.
          Expired
          • September 30, 2002
          • 1319

          #5
          Re: Ebay buyer sued for negative feedback

          There are definitely some issues with ebay. However, it still remains an important avenue for buying and selling hard to find parts. I'm a Power Seller and will continue to use ebay. I do think they need to revamp their feedback system. On the positive side, they have made significant improvements in reducing the scams. It's been quite a while since I have seen a 67 BB listed for $9,000 if you contact them directly.

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          • Richard T.
            Very Frequent User
            • January 31, 1979
            • 858

            #6
            Re: Ebay buyer sued for negative feedback

            Don,
            Your correct that kind of scam has not been as common lately but there is a new one that started today. A restored 60 for $14,000.00 110304142382 . I've been buying and selling for 10 years and am on the fence about continuing. It's become expensive and loaded with catalog items. I miss the days when the back yard guys sold they're old left over parts on e bay. On the other hand it sure beats schlepping your stuff to a swap meet, that's not cheap either. Rich

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            • Donald T.
              Expired
              • September 30, 2002
              • 1319

              #7
              Re: Ebay buyer sued for negative feedback

              Originally posted by Richard Thomas (2276)
              Don,
              Your correct that kind of scam has not been as common lately but there is a new one that started today. A restored 60 for $14,000.00 110304142382 . I've been buying and selling for 10 years and am on the fence about continuing. It's become expensive and loaded with catalog items. I miss the days when the back yard guys sold they're old left over parts on e bay. On the other hand it sure beats schlepping your stuff to a swap meet, that's not cheap either. Rich
              Yeah, that's the typical "buy it now" scam. I would look for it to be pulled shortly. I doubt they will ever be able completely eliminate fraud, but they have made great improvements. Ebay is still the best place for me to buy and sell original and NOS parts. It's slim pickins at the swap meets these days.

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              • Jack H.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • March 31, 1990
                • 9906

                #8
                Re: Ebay buyer sued for negative feedback

                Remember, eBay is NOT Sears! The folks at eBay simply provide a 'forum' for buyers and sellers to meet and do business with both accepting eBay's rules for conduct.

                Litigation external to eBay IS the legal safety valve for unresolved disputes although some want to envision eBay as an independent retailer and place the blame on them for certain 'wrongs' that occur.

                In this case, we're dealing with England's legal system and the definition of libel. While law suits can be instigated rather freely, it's the outcome that matters...

                In most jurisdictions, the seller will have to prove that the buyer made statement(s) that he knew to be untrue and that whose statement(s) actually resulting in detriment to the seller. My hunch is he lacks the evidence to prove that... It's pretty darn hard to be guilty of libel when what you say is, indeed, true!

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                • Michael S.
                  Expired
                  • March 31, 1987
                  • 364

                  #9
                  Re: Ebay buyer sued for negative feedback

                  Shill Bidding continues to be a big problem.

                  It appears to me the latest scam that "some" sellers are using is the seller will use a no reserve auction to sell their car or part and bid up the car/part with a friend or relative bump bidding on the a real bidder on the item. If the seller's friend/relative can "bump" the real & interested buyer/bidder high enough, the item sells. If he cannot "bump" the real and interest bidder/buyer high enough his friend/relative ends up the high bidder and "buys" the item. The seller then pays the sale fee and chalks that auction up to a selling expense. The seller then re-lists the car again and complains in his description about a "deadbeat bidder" winning the previous auction and therefore the seller has had to "re-list" the item. He runs the same "scam" with another no reserve auction. If the scam works the second time and he really does sell the item to a "real" buyer, the seller then gets back his first listing fee since the second auction was a relisted auction. The seller probably gets back the first sale auction final sale fee IF he files for it through EBAY as a non completed sale due to a deadbeat bidder not paying and he ultimately only pays 1 sale fee on the second auction! Pretty slick little scam!

                  I have not seen this a lot however I have watched some cars sell, then not sell and then sell again with a second re-listed no reserve auctions. Watch yourself and bid what you are willing to pay on an item and walk away from the auction. It's kinda hard to get burned when you only bid what you are willing to pay. You either win the auction and are happy or someone else thought the item was worth more than you did!!!!

                  Caveat Empor! However you spell it!!!

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