Last 67 Stingray restamp
How can a restamp pad pass NCRS or Bloomington Gold? Where can one get the stamps to fool the judges?
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Re: Last 67 Stingray restamp
You can't always "fool" the judges, but you can stamp an engine to pass. To some, it is part of the restoration. You can Top Flight a car with a repaint, or a restored interior. As long as the stamp appears as it should without significant deviation from what is considered correct, it will still flight. Even if it is known to be a restamp. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Engine restamping is a whole new conversation here and the topic could last for days. As far as who provides the stamps, I don't know, but there are people here who do.Tom Hendricks
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I think fool is the wrong word. The pad appears close enough to the way the factory did it to get some points but the judge knows what it is and is not fooled. It could be compared to base coat clear coat that looks like lacquer and the judges that day award it some points. The restamp people should be easy to find. I would check the Driveline under motor rebuilders and blocks for sale. They will know the best at the trade.Lyle
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innocent until proven guilty. if you can prove its a restamp then you give no points. if someone re broaches the block and restamps just like the factory did it then why not give the points. when you restore a car alot of stuff is redone just like original. you know the interior is not original but you get the points if its right. you know the paint is not original but you get the points if its done correctly. same with everything else. i dont agree with replacing a motor with something better and calling it original. i dont agree with all the big blocks added to a small block car and calling it original. but if you have a car that has had the motor replaced at some point in its life, and is a correct replacement motor with the wrong numbers you have to do something. some of these old cars are nothing more than a template when you start them and you have to replace everything. as long as you have documentation that proves what the car was then i dont mind a restamped car as long as its done right. if i can tell its bogus then i dont want it because everyone else will know it too.
even if the last sting ray has a restamped block, so what. its correct. he has documentation to prove what it was from the factory. it is a real big block car. its top flight and bloomington gold. the car was restored right. i would be willing to bet that most parts on that car were not the parts that were installed at the factory but who cares? its a nicely restored car.Comment
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Assuming that you're not trying to 'bait' people with this question or antagonize with the use of the word 'fool', the answer is quite simple.
If the pad and stamps are indistinguishable from typical factory production, why would the judges make a deduction?Comment
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Mike,
I agree with the responses so far. But does somebody have this down to a science now where as this is undetectable? If so who and how do I get in touch with them?Comment
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As mentioned in one of the above posts, how does one go about "broaching" a block? OR how was it done at the factory? I know that is one of the tell tale signs of a restamp, but never new a block could be broached on a rebuild. If it can, why would there be so many restamps without the correct broaching? Thanks
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The broach machines used at both engine plants were about 100 feet long and 20 feet high. As I recall Flint had four or five of them and Tonawanda had three. Made by CINCINNATTI, and they probably cost millions of dollars back in the day when dollars were worth something. Not the sort of machine one will find at your local engine rebuilder. They also had transfer line feed that moved many cylinder cases per minute into and out of the tooling fixtures. Again, not conducive to the use of the typical engine rebuild shop.
There is a thread in the archives about these machines, and I know of one member who is working on a story for The Restorer about them.TerryComment
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