62 - 64 oil dipstick configuration theory

[Edward M.]

Re: 62 - 64 oil dipstick configuration theory

OK, let me ask the following. Do the sticks with the M have a blunt pointed handle end, and the sticks with the W have a flat end.

Anybody have a dipstick that contradicts this?

[Tracy C.]

Re: 62 - 64 oil dipstick configuration theory

Ed,

We are having way too much fun here...

One attribute I think is consistant from sticks I've seen is that the blunt pointed ones have a more open loop on the handle. The one with the tighter loop also have the straight across cut on the handle end. Here is a picture of the 2 sticks I have.



Now if this characteristic is consistant across all production sticks, Then the one in this picture appears to also have a tighter loop on the handle. It also has the M on the handle. I cannot tell if the handle end is straight across or a blunt point...but it definitly has the tighter loop on the end.





This picture is just one from my file. I do not have the stick to verify the configuration. Sorry.

tc

[Chuck G.]

Re: 62 - 64 oil dipstick configuration theory

Well, I'm NO expert, and Ed and I have discussed this on many occasions.

Let me throw a curve ball here too. Are there really "M"'s and "W"'s ?

OR....is/was it a different stamp or ID logo from the same company?

M and W look the same upside-down, although I totally agree that the M's I've seen have straighter sides whereas the W's are flared, much like the font in this post. Different "font" from the same manufacturer? Made on a different assembly line?

2 manufacturers? The M company and the W company? Dunno.

Also, I've seen pointy curls and flat curls. I've seen embossed and debossed. I've seen some with "ENGINE OIL" and some without.

It's commonly felt that the 64's had the rubber thimble whereas the 63's had the washer and felt. Is there some overlap? Dunno that either.

Chuck

[Edward M.]

Re: 62 - 64 oil dipstick configuration theory

Well, I'm NO expert, and Ed and I have discussed this on many occasions.

Let me throw a curve ball here too. Are there really "M"'s and "W"'s ?

OR....is/was it a different stamp or ID logo from the same company?

M and W look the same upside-down, although I totally agree that the M's I've seen have straighter sides whereas the W's are flared, much like the font in this post. Different "font" from the same manufacturer? Made on a different assembly line?

2 manufacturers? The M company and the W company? Dunno.

Also, I've seen pointy curls and flat curls. I've seen embossed and debossed. I've seen some with "ENGINE OIL" and some without.

It's commonly felt that the 64's had the rubber thimble whereas the 63's had the washer and felt. Is there some overlap? Dunno that either.

Chuck

Lots of "donnos" there. That is what makes this so fascinating. The research continues.

[Tracy C.]

Re: 62 - 64 oil dipstick configuration theory

Well, I'm NO expert, and Ed and I have discussed this on many occasions.

Let me throw a curve ball here too. Are there really "M"'s and "W"'s ?

OR....is/was it a different stamp or ID logo from the same company?

M and W look the same upside-down, although I totally agree that the M's I've seen have straighter sides whereas the W's are flared, much like the font in this post. Different "font" from the same manufacturer? Made on a different assembly line?

2 manufacturers? The M company and the W company? Dunno.

Also, I've seen pointy curls and flat curls. I've seen embossed and debossed. I've seen some with "ENGINE OIL" and some without.

It's commonly felt that the 64's had the rubber thimble whereas the 63's had the washer and felt. Is there some overlap? Dunno that either.

Chuck

About time you joined this thread Chuck. As I recall you and Degregory started this whole thing over a year ago.

tc

[Chuck G.]

Re: 62 - 64 oil dipstick configuration theory

About time you joined this thread Chuck. As I recall you and Degregory started this whole thing over a year ago.

tc

I don't know if we'll ever figure it out, Tracy. We're looking at 44 +/- year old cars.

Here's a pic of an embossed stick....one with the letters "pushed in" from the back. Notice it has the 64 style "thimble".

Chuck

[Chuck G.]

Re: 62 - 64 oil dipstick configuration theory

My 63 dipstick has embossed ADD[ ]FULL ENGINE OIL. Every original one I've ever seen is also embossed. Repops are stamped.

tc

Here are a few pix of original stamped sticks.

I also agree that all the repops are stamped.

Also, I've never seen "ENGINE OIL" on a repop, AND all the repops I've seen have a B stamped on the handle.

Chuck

[Gary C.]

Re: 62 - 64 oil dipstick configuration theory

Chuck, don't know about repop's but the GM service replacement starting with '57 dipsticks were stamped with a "B" manufacturer's logo. Gary....

[Chuck G.]

Re: 62 - 64 oil dipstick configuration theory

Chuck, don't know about repop's but the GM service replacement starting with '57 dipsticks were stamped with a "B" manufacturer's logo. Gary....

Yes, you're right, Gary. Shoulda stated that too. Something else to add to the mix.

Great seeing you at Carlisle. Still a lot of us old geezers around.

Chuck

[Edward M.]

Re: 62 - 64 oil dipstick configuration theory

I don't know if we'll ever figure it out, Tracy. We're looking at 44 +/- year old cars.

Here's a pic of an embossed stick....one with the letters "pushed in" from the back. Notice it has the 64 style "thimble".

Chuck

I've got an NOS 64 low horse dipstick that looks exactly like this. Mine has a blunt pointed end on the handle.

[Curt C.]

Re: 62 - 64 oil dipstick configuration theory

The dipstick in my 1964 327/365 looks exactly like the ones shown but with one exception; there is no M or W stamped on the upper part of the blade. Does this mean the dipstick is not original? Thanks, great information.

[Edward M.]

Re: 62 - 64 oil dipstick configuration theory

The dipstick in my 1964 327/365 looks exactly like the ones shown but with one exception; there is no M or W stamped on the upper part of the blade. Does this mean the dipstick is not original? Thanks, great information.

So it has embossed (raised) characters, contains the phrase engine oil, and had riveted handle? Yes / No?

[Larry M.]

Re: 62 - 64 oil dipstick configuration theory

I've been reading dipstick posts for about two hours and I really don't see the answer so I thought I'd re-open this old thread. I'll ask my questions first before you get tired or reading and then add some detail which may not be of interest to you.

IF YOU HAVE AN ORIGINAL 64 HIGH HORSE DIPSTICK WITH THE FLAT TOP RUBBER CUP THAT I'VE SEEN MANY PICS OF, IS THERE A METAL DISC INSIDE THE RUBBER CUP? IT SEEMS TO ME THERE HAS TO BE BUT I'D LIKE SOMEONE WHO KNOWS TO TELL ME FOR SURE. If so, doen anyone know where to get a repro of that cup to repair my dipstick? Zip has one but it appears far too tall.

Here is why I'm asking. My 64 L84 dipstick which I "think" is original is like this:

1. "ADD l l FULL ENGINE OIL" all debossed with 3/4 inch between marks, not center to center of marks; roughly 19 3/4 to full
2. "W" debossed but smaller font and not a strong imprint; looks like W might have been on the end of a round punch; some might say stamped
3. Chrome loop handle with blunt V cut end 2 1/2 inch class
4. Metal disk which may have been flash chromed with a shearing burr on the bottom edge but is not cupped like some in pics on the forum.

Versus the well organized summary at the start of this thread (well communicated) I have lines and not colons for all/full which makes me think I have a 63 used on an early 64 but my disc does not have the upturned edge; hence, my question?

[Tracy C.]

Re: 62 - 64 oil dipstick configuration theory

[QUOTE=Larry Meyer (37196);800732].....

IF YOU HAVE AN ORIGINAL 64 HIGH HORSE DIPSTICK WITH THE FLAT TOP RUBBER CUP THAT I'VE SEEN MANY PICS OF, IS THERE A METAL DISC INSIDE THE RUBBER CUP? IT SEEMS TO ME THERE HAS TO BE BUT I'D LIKE SOMEONE WHO KNOWS TO TELL ME FOR SURE. If so, doen anyone know where to get a repro of that cup to repair my dipstick? ......

Yes there is a flat metal disc in the upper portion of the rubber cap on the 64 dip stick. It is molded into the top of the cup as I recall. I'm no help on a source however.

tc