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  • Jeremy H.
    Expired
    • January 1, 1999
    • 260

    1967 427 A.i.r

    I need to know what the correct part number pulley for the water pump is on a 427/435 with A.I.R. and power steering? The belt I have for the water pump to crank is to long. I do have the short version. I might have the wrong belt? Is there a different belt to use for crank to water pump that is not listed in the parts books?

    Thanks

    Jeremy Hedges
  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • February 1, 1988
    • 43219

    #2
    Re: 1967 427 A.i.r

    Originally posted by Jeremy Hedges (31711)
    I need to know what the correct part number pulley for the water pump is on a 427/435 with A.I.R. and power steering? The belt I have for the water pump to crank is to long. I do have the short version. I might have the wrong belt? Is there a different belt to use for crank to water pump that is not listed in the parts books?

    Thanks

    Jeremy Hedges
    Jeremy-----

    In your case, the fact that the car is equipped with K-19 should make no difference with respect to the water pump pulley or captive belt between the water pump pulley and crank pulley. All 1967 427, except those equipped with C-60, used the same water pump pulley. It was GM #3906656 and it was a 2 groove pulley of 7-3/16" OD. The captive belt was GM #3837810 and it was of 3/8" X 34-3/8" in overall length. Except from reproduction sources, you won't find a belt of this length.

    With K-19 (and without C-60), an additional single groove pulley was "sandwiched" to the front of the 3906656. This pulley was GM #3765427 and it was of 7-1/8" OD. However, as I mentioned, its addition had no bearing on the existing 2 groove pulley or the captive belt used.
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Jeremy H.
      Expired
      • January 1, 1999
      • 260

      #3
      Re: 1967 427 A.i.r

      I have a 3 groove pulley for the water pump, is that wrong? If so, where do I get that single groove pulley that is "sandwiched"? I assume that that extra groove is for the smog?

      Jeremy Hedges

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      • Joe L.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • February 1, 1988
        • 43219

        #4
        Re: 1967 427 A.i.r

        Originally posted by Jeremy Hedges (31711)
        I have a 3 groove pulley for the water pump, is that wrong? If so, where do I get that single groove pulley that is "sandwiched"? I assume that that extra groove is for the smog?

        Jeremy Hedges
        Jeremy-----


        The pulley you have is likely GM #3889372. As far as I know, for the 1967 model year this pulley was originally used only for L-36 and L-68 with C-60. Is it POSSIBLE that it was originally installed in your case? Yes, it's POSSIBLE, but I don't think it would have been TYPICAL of factory PRODUCTION.

        The GM #3765427 pulley was "sandwiched" between the fan clutch hub and the 2 groove GM #3906656 pulley. The single groove 3765427 was used for the K-19 driver pulley.

        Both the 3765427 and 3906656 are GM-discontinued. However, both are reproduced.

        Keep this in mind: IF someone previously replaced the original 2 pulley set-up with the 3 groove pulley, I can envision 2 possible reasons for doing it:

        1) The 3 groove, single pulley was used for all L1968-74 big blocks except L-88. Some folks THINK it was used for all 67-74 big block applications. If someone was "making up" a 1967 big block, they might have been among the folks that think the 3 groove pulley configuration was used for all 1967-74 applications;

        2) The 3 groove pulley is of smaller OD than the 3765427/3906656. Therefore, it causes the fan speed to be higher. That, in turn, increases cooling (that may well be why it was used for 1967 C-60 applications and why it was adopted pretty much across-the-board for L68-74 Corvette big block applications). So, the 3 groove pulley does offer a functional advantage. Of course, not too many folks know about this, but one of the ones that do may have played a part in the history of your car.
        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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        • Jeremy H.
          Expired
          • January 1, 1999
          • 260

          #5
          Re: 1967 427 A.i.r

          Thanks, great information.

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