Survivor Show- A Show of Hands Please...
Okay, who thought the "Survivor Show" at BG was going to be all Vettes and paid to go back in on Sunday just for that??? Only Me???
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Jamie,
My understanding was that the Survivor Corvettes were only on display on Friday. I'm not sure why.
Some of the cars were interesting (specifically a 53 and 54) and some I did not quite understand. There was a nice looking 58 fuel car which had a CQ block stamp. It was certified as a survivor with a base engine block.
Why and how did this car qualify???
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Bruce,
A Survivor(TM) needs to be 50% original in three of four areas. thus a car without the original engine or without original paint can be a Survivor(TM). Of course a car with both deviations will NOT pass Survivor(TM).TerryComment
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Survivor cars of all makes, except corvettes were scheduled for Sunday only. Survivor Corvettes were earlier in the show. I think Friday. DGComment
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Survivor Show- A Show of Hands Please...
With no desire or intent to start a small scale riot, the BG "Survivor" award, while creatively named & well marketed, really sets a relativley low standard for a car one might think is a model for text book originality - or an example that is a testimonial to factory originality that might be used as a guide in a restoration of your precious baby.
NCRS "Bowtie" Judging, IMO, is the only standard in Corvette car judging I am aware of that actually judges original, unrestored cars to a standard that makes an accurate assessment and might be documented and used as a guide in a factory correct restoration..
As an example - if your car can be driven 40 miles in BG Survivor, what testimony does that provide that could be included in an NCRS Judging Guide or other book to help members learn about and restore their car?
Our approach does not require the car to run. Think about it - every time you screw with the car, you screw with the originality of the car - and, you can't undo it.
Best, DennisComment
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Well spoken oh great Dipstick!
Dick WhittingtonComment
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ChePhart, time flies when yer are a havin' fun.
Dick WhittingtonComment
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As only a second year attendee of Bloomington, and, as Dennis said, not to start a war, but I was under the impression that BG was a combination of standards between ncrs and BG. Boy, was I wrong!!
In listening to the owners briefing before the survivor judging and then talking to some others about it afterwards, the 50% originality threshold, I thought, was incredibly low!! How can a car be considered "survivor" if half of its parts aren't? I was given a brief history of BG over the weekend and realized that it's a great show to see great cars, but their judging criteria seems to be lacking. They have 36 minutes to judge each car, in four categories (for gold, or silver) and yet I'm not sure what standards they use for determining what is correct or not...maybe the judges knowledge? But certainly not the ncrs judging guide. This was a major learning lesson for me as to future entry to BG and was nothing short of eye-opening. I really enjoyed the show as a non-entrant and the L-88's were great, but...Comment
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At one time I was pumped up about having the wife's '81 Survivor judged (she ordered it new). Then I saw one in the same color with new paint and other changes qualify and it just turned me off. And here I was worried about putting on new A.I.R. check valves and that I'd just removed the original tires. Also I didn't have the original battery anymore.
They are way too lax on the requirements for a survivor car for my taste.
TomComment
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Add to all of the above that Survivor Judging cost $300.00 and it all boils down to great marketing fo BG.
But as I said when I first started this post, the Special Collection is fantastic, the variety of cars is unbelieveable and I did get to meet many friends and as usual the swap meet did yield some great parts.
And on top of that where else can you see a bid of $2,825,000.00 turned down for a group of 3 Corvettes.........Comment
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Starting in 1990..Bloomington Gold Survivor provided a place for owners of important but otherwise tired original cars to showcase these cars. Other than show and shine car shows there was no other big time attraction.
The bar was set low but it successfully brought out cars that we might not otherwise see.
We can gripe about repaints and all the rest but I love seeing these cars as they are part of what we treasure and their owners should be applauded for showing them.
JoeComment
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