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  • Tony S.
    NCRS Vice President, Director Region VII & 10
    • April 30, 1981
    • 988

    '65 396/425 fan shroud

    I'm a bit perplexed by the '65 Judging Guide's comments about the fan shroud for my 396. It says that there is a seal stapled to the bottom of the fiberglass shroud. I have no staple holes anywhere in the bottom of my original shroud, so I don't see that it ever had a seal. There was no lower seal on it when I bought the car. I would think a lower shroud seal would be needed for a car with A/C. My 396 car does not have A/C (did any 396 car?). I looked at Dave Sindelar's original 8,000 mile '65 396 car yesterday, and it didn't have a lower seal either.

    Thanks.
    Tony
    Region VII Director (serving members in Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas).
    Original member of the Kansas City Chapter, est'd 07/11/1982.
    Member: 1965 and 1966 National Judging Teams
    Judging Chairman--Kansas City Chapter.
    Co-Editor of the 1965 TIM and JG, 6th and 7th editions.
  • Greg G.
    Frequent User
    • September 30, 1994
    • 61

    #2
    Re: '65 396/425 fan shroud

    Tony,

    I have a 396 Duntov car and had the same question when I restored my car for judging.

    What I found was that the seal was NOT installed on production cars. It is shown in the assemby manual and I tried to install one on my original shroud and the rubber seal would interfear with the fan.

    I had the car judged at 3 National meets and did not receive any deductions.

    Greg

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    • Tony S.
      NCRS Vice President, Director Region VII & 10
      • April 30, 1981
      • 988

      #3
      Re: '65 396/425 fan shroud

      Greg. Thanks for being the "Answer Man". It's much appreciated. I'll take that line item off of my punch list.
      Tony
      Region VII Director (serving members in Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas).
      Original member of the Kansas City Chapter, est'd 07/11/1982.
      Member: 1965 and 1966 National Judging Teams
      Judging Chairman--Kansas City Chapter.
      Co-Editor of the 1965 TIM and JG, 6th and 7th editions.

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      • Bill W.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • March 1, 1980
        • 2000

        #4
        Re: '65 396/425 fan shroud

        no sign of any rubber on 17346

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        • Mike M.
          NCRS Past President
          • May 31, 1974
          • 8383

          #5
          Re: '65 396/425 fan shroud

          no seals or staple scars on 22137 nor on 18503 nor no staples scars on a NOS shroud i've had since the early 80's.mike

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          • Tony S.
            NCRS Vice President, Director Region VII & 10
            • April 30, 1981
            • 988

            #6
            Re: '65 396/425 fan shroud

            Do any of you have a seal on the top of the upper radiator support?
            Region VII Director (serving members in Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas).
            Original member of the Kansas City Chapter, est'd 07/11/1982.
            Member: 1965 and 1966 National Judging Teams
            Judging Chairman--Kansas City Chapter.
            Co-Editor of the 1965 TIM and JG, 6th and 7th editions.

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            • Mike M.
              NCRS Past President
              • May 31, 1974
              • 8383

              #7
              Re: '65 396/425 fan shroud

              yes, the 396's used a uniquely configured seal on the top of the core support. its about 10 to 12" long. mike

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              • Edward S.
                Expired
                • December 1, 1986
                • 514

                #8
                Re: '65 396/425 fan shroud

                Hi Tony,
                I too have a Duntov, Triple Crown 396, The first few times I had it judged I lost points for not having a lower seal on my radiator shroud. I was told that most people left them off the car because of the fan ripping them up.
                LICS had and still has a lower radiator seal in their catalog, which I ordered.
                The fellow I had doing most of my work at the time did something with the positioning of the shroud which prevented the fan from ripping the seal for 6 years now. I do not have the latest 65 judging manual, but I would think from other answers listed the rules might have changed ( or you can have it either way ). Good luck.

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                • Michael H.
                  Expired
                  • January 29, 2008
                  • 7477

                  #9
                  Re: '65 396/425 fan shroud

                  Originally posted by Mike McCagh (14)
                  yes, the 396's used a uniquely configured seal on the top of the core support. its about 10 to 12" long. mike
                  Mike, was the seal supposed to be on all 396 cars or was that something that entered production a month or two after introduction of the 396?

                  I don't remember it being on my early April car, but, that was a long time ago so.......

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                  • Edward S.
                    Expired
                    • December 1, 1986
                    • 514

                    #10
                    Re: '65 396/425 fan shroud

                    I should have added that my car was built in mid-June and when I bought it the top seal was in place.

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                    • Tony S.
                      NCRS Vice President, Director Region VII & 10
                      • April 30, 1981
                      • 988

                      #11
                      Re: '65 396/425 fan shroud

                      Originally posted by Michael Hanson (4067)
                      Mike, was the seal supposed to be on all 396 cars or was that something that entered production a month or two after introduction of the 396?

                      I don't remember it being on my early April car, but, that was a long time ago so.......
                      Michael. The JG reads as follows:

                      "A rubber seal is present at the top of the core support to seal the hood for improved cooling. The addition of the seal is a running change, VIN unknown".

                      Tony
                      Region VII Director (serving members in Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas).
                      Original member of the Kansas City Chapter, est'd 07/11/1982.
                      Member: 1965 and 1966 National Judging Teams
                      Judging Chairman--Kansas City Chapter.
                      Co-Editor of the 1965 TIM and JG, 6th and 7th editions.

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                      • Michael H.
                        Expired
                        • January 29, 2008
                        • 7477

                        #12
                        Re: '65 396/425 fan shroud

                        Originally posted by Anthony Stein (4600)
                        Michael. The JG reads as follows:

                        "A rubber seal is present at the top of the core support to seal the hood for improved cooling. The addition of the seal is a running change, VIN unknown".

                        Tony
                        Thanks Tony. That's what I thought. I was pretty sure my early car and a few other early cars I know of didn't have the seal.

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                        • Mike M.
                          NCRS Past President
                          • May 31, 1974
                          • 8383

                          #13
                          Re: '65 396/425 fan shroud

                          Originally posted by Michael Hanson (4067)
                          Mike, was the seal supposed to be on all 396 cars or was that something that entered production a month or two after introduction of the 396?

                          I don't remember it being on my early April car, but, that was a long time ago so.......
                          can't comment on real early 396's but my two(vins noted in previous post) as well as friends vin 1800+: all three had the upper core support seals.mike

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                          • James W.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • December 1, 1990
                            • 2655

                            #14
                            Re: '65 396/425 fan shroud

                            Originally posted by Mike McCagh (14)
                            can't comment on real early 396's but my two(vins noted in previous post) as well as friends vin 1800+: all three had the upper core support seals.mike
                            Mike and others, any chance of getting a picture of the upper core support seal?

                            Thanks,

                            James West

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                            • Wayne M.
                              Expired
                              • March 1, 1980
                              • 6414

                              #15
                              Re: '65 396/425 fan shroud

                              Originally posted by Anthony Stein (4600)
                              Michael. The JG reads as follows:

                              "A rubber seal is present at the top of the core support to seal the hood for improved cooling. The addition of the seal is a running change, VIN unknown".

                              Tony

                              Tony; others...

                              The top L78 seal introduction was noted in the tech service bulletins effective at a specific VIN #. I can dig it out if any are interested.

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