C2 Knock Offs

[Robert T.]

Could some one please post or email me some pictures of their original knockoff wheels. In particular, some close up views of the area where the cone meets up to the wheel. I have some new repro direct bolt ons and I am getting some conflicting opinions as to what is correct relative to that fit.

The question is whether the cone should meet/touch the wheel or not. Some say yes, some say no. I can't decide if the cap that I have is correct or not. The supplier says there should be a gap, others say no gap. I've never really paid any attention to that area before.

Can someone please help me out here as to what is correct? I've attached a couple of pictures of mine.

Thanks.

Bob Taylor (22650)

[Charles R.]

Re: C2 Knock Offs

What year?
Here is known original 64 with original BF Goodrich tire, photo angle may not show what you want but yours do not look correct. This is before restoration.

[Mike M.]

Re: C2 Knock Offs

Could some one please post or email me some pictures of their original knockoff wheels. In particular, some close up views of the area where the cone meets up to the wheel. I have some new repro direct bolt ons and I am getting some conflicting opinions as to what is correct relative to that fit.

The question is whether the cone should meet/touch the wheel or not. Some say yes, some say no. I can't decide if the cap that I have is correct or not. The supplier says there should be a gap, others say no gap. I've never really paid any attention to that area before.

Can someone please help me out here as to what is correct? I've attached a couple of pictures of mine.

Thanks.

Bob Taylor (22650)

i have 10 sets of orignal K/O's on my midyears and some cones touch and some just barely avoid touching. i believe the lack or near lack of gap is dependent on the amount of adhesive that was applied by kelsey hays. your gap appears excessive in your photo. regards, mike

[Gary S.]

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It appears real cones end closer to the fins than the typical repro. They are not suppose to touch the fins in any case. Below is a picture of a repro cone (left hand picture) that you typically get and on the right is a real 65 KO wheel cone. The real cone gap here is exactly like McCagh's picture of his real 64..it ends closer to the fin.

[Robert T.]

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Thanks for the info guys. Sorry I forgot to say that this was off a 66.

[Robert T.]

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Thanks Mike

[Mike M.]

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Hi Gary
Interesting color sequence on that cap.
HaND

[Gary S.]

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Mike, Just had to make a correction to my post...I got the pictures mixed up and that was because I had to upload them a couple times...the real KO is on the right, not the left as I first posted. Gary

[Robert T.]

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Hmmmm. At least in both cases the end of the cone is away from the fins. That's good. However, neither one has a gap like mine. It sounds like from Mikes post that some originals may not have touched the wheel. That's encouraging, but mine still looks "wierd"

[Wayne M.]

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Hi Gary
Interesting color sequence on that cap.
HaND

Mike -- you must be referencing the more "traditional" red-white-blue, in a clockwise observation. The original blue has weathered the most.

[Wayne M.]

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Hmmmm. At least in both cases the end of the cone is away from the fins. That's good. However, neither one has a gap like mine. It sounds like from Mikes post that some originals may not have touched the wheel. That's encouraging, but mine still looks "wierd"

Robert -- here's a poor attempt to take a pic (with mirror to show slightly different angle) of the cone on one of a set of '66 originals I have. The skirt of the cone contacts the wheel casting right up to the edge, except for maybe an half-inch, where I'm not sure even a 2-thou feeler would slip under.

But this is a sample of one wheel; I have not had the advantage of owning more than 3 original sets in my Corvette lifetime, and Mike McC.'s observation may well be the one to use.

[Robert T.]

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Are these caps different from left side to right side. Is it supposed to be R-W-B in the direction of travel?

Bob

[Robert T.]

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Wayne,

Thanks for taking the time and effort to do this.

[Jack H.]

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The cones were affixed to the wheels using various methods to thwart the potential for 'rattling'. Some originals I've seen used what appeared to be putty while others used a form of double sided tape.

In either case the absolute thickness of the anti-rattle agent dictates how high off the wheel the cone sits. My hunch is the reproduction wheels/cones you have are joined by pretty thick pieces of double sided foam tape...

[Wayne M.]

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Are these caps different from left side to right side. Is it supposed to be R-W-B in the direction of travel?Bob

Bob -- This may be a legend about left side caps being different from RH, so that R-W-B was the order going forward on both sides.

I can only see a single GM part # for service of these emblems. But then the AIM RPO P92 calls the spinner "nut assembly", which would lead one to assume center cap / emblem was included --- and if the spinners were different L to R, then why not the caps ?

I dunno; maybe Mike Murray might have something to add.