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  • Jerome P.
    Expired
    • October 22, 2006
    • 607

    Protecto plate

    Are reproduction POP's available? If so who handles them?
  • Joel F.
    Expired
    • April 30, 2004
    • 659

    #2
    Re: Protecto plate

    They are available and reproductions can be detected quite easily.

    There are various people on ebay who sell them, as does Jim Clemments, and probably others.

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    • Jerome P.
      Expired
      • October 22, 2006
      • 607

      #3
      Re: Protecto plate

      How do I get a hold of Jim Clemments?

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      • Pat M.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • April 1, 2006
        • 1575

        #4
        Re: Protecto plate

        While I'm sure an expert can detect any repos, there are excellent ones out there. The one I bought looks remarkably like my original I later obtained. Check out the attached photo, the repo is on the right.
        And I think a very good repo is better than none at all.
        Attached Files

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        • Jerome P.
          Expired
          • October 22, 2006
          • 607

          #5
          Re: Protecto plate

          Thanks Pat.

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          • Nick C.
            Very Frequent User
            • August 31, 1998
            • 542

            #6
            Re: Protecto plate

            Why spend money on a counterfiet item?

            The point allocation, if that is your concern, for a real one is minimal.

            If you are perpetuating a myth other issues may arise.

            Presenting fake paperwork may only serve to discredit the car or owner...

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            • Reba W.
              Very Frequent User
              • June 30, 1985
              • 937

              #7
              Re: Protecto plate

              For 1968-72, a protect-o-plate is worth one whopping point. Nick makes a good point. Weigh the point versus the cost.

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              • Dick W.
                Former NCRS Director Region IV
                • June 30, 1985
                • 10483

                #8
                Re: Protecto plate

                It is not worth the money to have a protecto plate made. Fairly easlily detected and the presence of a counterfeit lowers the credibility of a car
                Dick Whittington

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                • Page C.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • February 1, 1979
                  • 802

                  #9
                  Re: Protecto plate

                  When they call something a reproduction, to me that means that it resembled the original part. With a repro protector plate they would have to make up the original selling Chevy dealer and the original owner and there address and a date among other things. Fake paper works only purpose is to deceive someone.
                  JMHO,
                  Page Campbell

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                  • Pat M.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • April 1, 2006
                    • 1575

                    #10
                    Re: Protecto plate

                    Originally posted by Nick Culkowski (30922)
                    Why spend money on a counterfiet item?

                    The point allocation, if that is your concern, for a real one is minimal.

                    If you are perpetuating a myth other issues may arise.

                    Presenting fake paperwork may only serve to discredit the car or owner...
                    In my opinion people spend money on a repo POP for the same reason they spend money on any repo item, to duplicate as closely as they can something the car was originally equipped with.
                    I see absolutely no problem so long as there is no attempt to counterfeit, as defined by NCRS. And anything on a car can be counterfeited, not just paperwork.

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                    • Pat M.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • April 1, 2006
                      • 1575

                      #11
                      Re: Protecto plate

                      Originally posted by Page Campbell (2299)
                      When they call something a reproduction, to me that means that it resembled the original part. With a repro protector plate they would have to make up the original selling Chevy dealer and the original owner and there address and a date among other things. Fake paper works only purpose is to deceive someone.
                      JMHO,
                      Page Campbell
                      But Page, suppose you KNOW all of the above information, accurately have it reproduced on the plate and/or warranty book, and it is NOT presented as being an original item. In that case, where is the intent to deceive?

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                      • Nick C.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • August 31, 1998
                        • 542

                        #12
                        Re: Protecto plate

                        Originally posted by Pat Moresi (45581)
                        In my opinion people spend money on a repo POP for the same reason they spend money on any repo item, to duplicate as closely as they can something the car was originally equipped with.
                        I see absolutely no problem so long as there is no attempt to counterfeit, as defined by NCRS. And anything on a car can be counterfeited, not just paperwork.
                        Let us not be confused. There is a monumental difference between presenting a car with a repro oil cap vs. repro paperwork. Every part of a car is a "subset" of its entire essence. The "set" of a real car is determined by its authenticity as presented.

                        Anything confirming its legal description as original factory built is paramount. Recreating factory paperwork has no merit.

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                        • Pat M.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • April 1, 2006
                          • 1575

                          #13
                          Re: Protecto plate

                          Originally posted by Nick Culkowski (30922)
                          Let us not be confused. There is a monumental difference between presenting a car with a repro oil cap vs. repro paperwork. Every part of a car is a "subset" of its entire essence. The "set" of a real car is determined by its authenticity as presented.

                          Anything confirming its legal description as original factory built is paramount. Recreating factory paperwork has no merit.
                          You're entitled to your opinion. I disagree for the reasons stated.

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                          • Jerome P.
                            Expired
                            • October 22, 2006
                            • 607

                            #14
                            Re: Protecto plate

                            Page, I have all the information needed for the plate (original owner, original dealer, original sales invoice. I just do not have the original plate and/or warranty book. How is replicating the POP with the original info as it relates to my '72 any different then a repo emblem?

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                            • Robert C.
                              Expired
                              • December 1, 1993
                              • 1153

                              #15
                              Re: Protecto plate

                              As we speak the PROTECTO-PLATE NCRS book is being printed. This will show what the fake REPRO plates look like. The intent here is to rid the sport of repro POP's. Just like the Trim Tag book that's already out discourages the use of those items.

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