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  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • February 1, 1988
    • 43219

    #16
    Re: 72 wheel color

    Originally posted by Gerard Quinn (33629)
    I had the same judging issue with my 71. My wheels were painted with what I thought was a correct argent silver....however I was told the tint was not correct. While I was at the FL reg this year I took this pic of what I believe is a 70/71 wheel that had it's original paint on the parameter and new argent silver paint on the center of the wheel. I was told by a judge this clearly demonstrated the color difference of today's paint and that of the factory applied argent silver.


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    Gerard-----


    Although I thought the green tinted argent silver wheel paint ceased to be
    used after 1970, your wheels look like they are green-tinted to me. The center section protected by the wheel cover is where I would expect the tint to be most obvious. However, your center section appears almost plain silver. Has the center section been "touched up" with some commercially available "argent silver"?
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Mike G.
      Expired
      • July 31, 2002
      • 709

      #17
      Re: 72 wheel color

      Originally posted by Gerard Quinn (33629)
      I had the same judging issue with my 71. My wheels were painted with what I thought was a correct argent silver....however I was told the tint was not correct. While I was at the FL reg this year I took this pic of what I believe is a 70/71 wheel that had it's original paint on the parameter and new argent silver paint on the center of the wheel. I was told by a judge this clearly demonstrated the color difference of today's paint and that of the factory applied argent silver.


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      i took a pic of that same wheel in fl at the regional. it was the spare on a silver 70. the outside was the original paint and the inside was touched up with new silver paint. probably had some rust. my june 70 has the green tinted paint. you can buy the correct green tint paint for the 69 70 wheels in a spray can. it was high but it looked correct.

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      • Gerard Q.
        Very Frequent User
        • February 1, 2000
        • 284

        #18
        Re: 72 wheel color

        Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
        Gerard-----


        Although I thought the green tinted argent silver wheel paint ceased to be
        used after 1970, your wheels look like they are green-tinted to me. The center section protected by the wheel cover is where I would expect the tint to be most obvious. However, your center section appears almost plain silver. Has the center section been "touched up" with some commercially available "argent silver"?
        I'm sorry Joe that picture is not of my wheel, it's a 1970 wheel a judge pointed out to me as the correct shade/tint & incorrect shade/tint. My wheels are more the color of the center portion which in the case of this wheel had been resprayed by the owner. The judge deemed that resprayed color to be incorrect. He suggested the outer color w/a bit of green tint to be correct for 71. I was gigged at a regional for my wheel color because it lacked that same green tint. I'd just like to know should a 71 on up wheel color be the argent silver they're selling today without a green tint or not.

        Thanks

        Jerry

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        • Gerard Q.
          Very Frequent User
          • February 1, 2000
          • 284

          #19
          Re: 72 wheel color

          Originally posted by Mike Greene (38310)
          i took a pic of that same wheel in fl at the regional. it was the spare on a silver 70. the outside was the original paint and the inside was touched up with new silver paint. probably had some rust. my june 70 has the green tinted paint. you can buy the correct green tint paint for the 69 70 wheels in a spray can. it was high but it looked correct.
          That's funny that we took a pic of the same wheel....I just thought it made a good comparison between tint & no tint all on the same wheel. The problem I'm having is some say no green tint for 71 and up, others say it should have it.

          What brand paint did you buy. All that I've seen look plain silver w/o any tint.

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          • Patrick H.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • December 1, 1989
            • 11643

            #20
            Re: 72 wheel color

            Originally posted by Gerard Quinn (33629)
            I had the same judging issue with my 71. My wheels were painted with what I thought was a correct argent silver....however I was told the tint was not correct. While I was at the FL reg this year I took this pic of what I believe is a 70/71 wheel that had it's original paint on the parameter and new argent silver paint on the center of the wheel. I was told by a judge this clearly demonstrated the color difference of today's paint and that of the factory applied argent silver.
            Gerard,

            According to my 71 and 72 cars, as well as the 4th Ed. Judging Guide,

            "Wheels in 1970 had a greenish tint, while the 1971 and 1972 wheels were bright silver."

            Most auto parts stores that sell paint will be able to mix you up a nice correct Argent Silver for your 71 - without the green tint. If your 71 was deducted because of "no green tint" then the judge was mistaken.

            Patrick
            Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
            71 "deer modified" coupe
            72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
            2008 coupe
            Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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            • Joe L.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • February 1, 1988
              • 43219

              #21
              Re: 72 wheel color

              The greenish tint argent silver is also available from OEM paints (www.oempaints.com)
              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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              • Kenneth T.
                Very Frequent User
                • March 23, 2008
                • 631

                #22
                Re: 72 wheel color

                Thank you to everyone. I can see my education beginning with all the knowledge here. I will drop the spare and look close for numbers. It will not change the color or type but may lead to something. I have done a rub on my POP warranty plate for the numbers, is there any info there that can help?

                I do not want to touch anything else on my car until I know exactly what I am doing here.

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                • Robert C.
                  Expired
                  • December 1, 1993
                  • 1153

                  #23
                  Re: 72 wheel color

                  If you look closely at your wheels you should find Black "inside" (semi-gloss) paint with silver overspray at the rally Holes. The wheels started out all black and then the outside was spray-painted the silver. The argent silver color is a dumb point because many judges are "color blind".

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                  • Gerard Q.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • February 1, 2000
                    • 284

                    #24
                    Re: 72 wheel color

                    Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
                    Gerard,

                    According to my 71 and 72 cars, as well as the 4th Ed. Judging Guide,

                    "Wheels in 1970 had a greenish tint, while the 1971 and 1972 wheels were bright silver."

                    Most auto parts stores that sell paint will be able to mix you up a nice correct Argent Silver for your 71 - without the green tint. If your 71 was deducted because of "no green tint" then the judge was mistaken.

                    Patrick
                    Thanks Patrick, A local body shop is mixing up a batch of Argent Silver for me. I'll bring your remarks with me the next time I have my car judged.

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                    • Gerard Q.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • February 1, 2000
                      • 284

                      #25
                      Re: 72 wheel color

                      Originally posted by Robert Cook (23737)
                      The argent silver color is a dumb point because many judges are "color blind".
                      Ha, don't think I'd want to tell a judge that and expect good things to happen.

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                      • Kenneth T.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • March 23, 2008
                        • 631

                        #26
                        Re: 72 wheel color

                        Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                        Kenneth-----


                        Yes, there is a way to ID the wheel. There are also dates coded in several places on the wheel, 2 of which are easy to see.

                        First, the wheel code used for 1969-82 Corvette rally wheels was "AZ". You will find this stamped near the valve stem hole. If you have another non-rally wheel for the spare, it should have a 2 character code, too. With this code, we can identify the wheel.

                        Dates easy to discern are also stamped on the wheel near the valve stem hole as well as on the center section. There will be a sequence like "K 1 0". The last digit indicates the YEAR of manufacture.

                        A situation like yours is very strange. I find it very unlikely that St. Louis would have installed a non-painted wheel as a spare. However, for the wheel to also be not a Corvette-type rally wheel, seems almost beyond belief.

                        Some photos of a 1969 original wheel are included. These show the location and configuration of the stampings. They also show the slight green tint that 68-70 wheels are usually noted to have. The tint has faded away in the exposed portions of the wheel but can be seen in the area that was covered by the center cap. It's somewhat difficult to see in the photos, but it's very obvious when looking at the wheel "in person".

                        Also note that the "argent silver" is somewhat darker on these wheels than that seen on most other wheels and darker than any "argent silver" paint I have found.

                        Joe the rim out and looked at it. K191 before the valve and 22 after ?

                        I sent for the Judging manual what else do I need to not be so much of a pest?
                        Last edited by Kenneth T.; March 29, 2008, 06:09 PM. Reason: more

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