Calloway Flight Judging

[Tyler T.]

Are 87-90 Calloways eligible for flight judging? Is there distinction between the ones ordered through the dealer with the RPO or one sent to be retrofitted after being purchased? This leads me to another question of RPOs, a flight judging is to evaluate a car against what it would have looked like on the showroom floor. IE The options were accomplished at the plant before being shipped to a dealer. In 56 Chevy made available some RPO options that were designed to promote racing the car, these were accomplished at the factory. Some were ordered that way by the customer but some were ordered by the dealer and were used to attract customers to the showroom and later sold to a customer. These options were planned for the following years but the Corp ban on racing stopped the availability of those options. If I restore one of these cars that were ordered with these options, IE Documentation that these Items were installed at the factory and the car came through a dealership, would it not be eligible for flight judging and if not why not?

Tyler

[Louis T.]

Re: Calloway Flight Judging

Hi Tyler,

The Callaways ordered through the dealer via RPO are eligible for Flight Judging - the others are deemed modified cars, and would take hits on all of the Callaway modifications since they weren't ordered that way from the "factory" (the factory here is referred to loosely, as we all know the cars were shipped from the factory to Callaway for the modifications, but that was done as part of the RPO process and before delivery to the dealer).

Flight Judging evaluates a car against what it would have looked like leaving the factory, not necessarily how it would have appeared on the showroom floor. Dealers can and often do add their own options - some are among those available from the factory, and some are not (e.g., custom pinstripes, and the "California" third taillight treatment).

I am confused about your differentiation between a customer ordering certain RPOs vs. a dealer ordering them. If the car was ordered from the factory a certain way via the RPO process, it doesn't make a difference who ordered it. And adding an option later - even if by the dealer, and even if it was one that could have been ordered via RPO - would still be considered a modification.

Alternately, if you are saying that dealers could have, in some instances, ordered options from the factory that weren't available through the normal RPO process (COPO?) - maybe slated for future RPO but dropped before being made available to the general public - these would have to be documented to the satisfaction of the NCRS (Team Leaders?) for them to be accepted in the Flight Judging process.

Save the wave!

Louis

[Tyler T.]

Re: Calloway Flight Judging

I was a little unclear, I was refering to factory installed RPO items not dealer installed items. Is there some kind of 'authenticated' RPO list that can be on a car being judged? If so is there a procedure to add an item through documentation?

Dealer ordered, I ment a dealer ordered the car with factory RPOs with no specific customer in mind vice a customer ordered car.

Tyler

[Eric J.]

Re: Calloway Flight Judging

Tyler, Your SPI should have a list of all RPOs on the car this is located unter the center arm rest console. You can also order a build sheet (broadcast sheet) and window sticker from the Museum. This should show the RPOs. Lastly you can also order a copy of the original dealer invoice from Allied Vaughn. All of these can be used to justify options installed on your car.

[Eric J.]

Re: Calloway Flight Judging

For Allied Vaughn invoice requests right click on the following link and select save target:

http://www.syreal.com/VehicleInvoiceCustomerForm.doc

Then fill out the form and email it to:

vehicleinvoice@gmmediaarchive.com

The cost is $50 for a copy of the microfilm dealer invoice. This is available for most 1977 and later Chevrolets including Corvettes. Export cars are not available and some fleet vehicles. Not sure if the Calloway was a fleet or not. If unsure you can email your VIN to Sandy at the above address and she can check to see if she has it before you place the order

Eric

[Tyler T.]

Re: Calloway Flight Judging

If you read the first post I asked about Calloways then jumped to the same idea but applied to 56s and 57s that had race specific items installed at St Louis. These were options that could be ordered through the dealer and came on the car when it was unloaded at the dealership. If I locate one of the few that were built with these options and want it Flight Judged then I would much rather restore it to that level than to restore it as a stock optioned car so that it can judged.

Later cars are much easier but are they. I have an 88 with a build sheet that shows it is a ZR-1 ( It was assembled on the production line on June 87), if I presented it for Flight Judging would you accept it for judging? How about an 89 narrow body car with an LT-5 and six speed, again a car with a build sheet showing it was built on the production line that way. ( I know where one of these are.)

Tyler

Tyler

[Terry M.]

Re: Calloway Flight Judging

Tyler,
Years ago I got to drive a 1989 narrow body ZR1 from the Desert Proving Grounds to the NCRS Regional in Scottsdale. Neat car, and some of us abused the dickens out of it for the entire meet. At the time I never though we would come to the point of considering judging it, and neither did anyone else at the meet.
Things like this don't make me feel any younger.

[Dick W.]

Re: Calloway Flight Judging

Terry do you remember the high altitude proving ground car we had at Bend? Going out thru the Deschutes National Forest at about 120 per and a '67 vert with the top down passed us so fast that it shook the car!

Like you, I am begining to feel somewhat older

[Terry M.]

Re: Calloway Flight Judging

Yes Dick I remember that car and a "brake test" that was done by a mutial friend.

[Dick W.]

Re: Calloway Flight Judging

I remember being suspended in mid-air, restrained by the seat belt and harness, immediately after the comment "I wonder how well the anti lock brakes work". We were running in excess of 100 mph when he pulled that stunt. Ain't no wonder I have had a couple of heart attacks

[Michael W.]

Re: Calloway Flight Judging

Ain't no wonder I have had a couple of heart attacks

Ya, but you still got a grin on your face!

[Dick W.]

Re: Calloway Flight Judging

Michael, I was literally in mid air with no part of my body touching the seat, nor were my feet on the floor. I know what zero gravity feels like