71 factory primer car

[Tom M.]

1971, a car i want to buy came from the factory in primer,the original owner
wanted a black car, he was going to have the dealer paint it black ,but never did.
if i got the car judged NCRS what should i do , leave it primer,or paint it black ??

[Michael W.]

Re: 71 factory primer car

Needs to be in the condition that the trim tag says it left the factory in to avoid point loss.

[Wayne W.]

Re: 71 factory primer car

In this case, I guess we would judge primer.

[Tom M.]

Re: 71 factory primer car

Any body ever judge a primer car ? any thoughts ? thanks

[Kent K.]

Re: 71 factory primer car

While I was Cheif Judge at the Cypress Gardens event for 10 years, we had several primer cars judged. Now, if some of those judges would post, we'd be in business.
Regards, Kent

[Michael W.]

Re: 71 factory primer car

Now, if some of those judges would post, we'd be in business.
Regards, Kent

The judging manuals are quite clear- at least the ones I have. If the trim tag says it is a 'primer' car, it must be presented in gray primer. If it is presented in any other finish, it is a 100% deduction for body colour.

[Dick W.]

Re: 71 factory primer car

LEAVE it in primer. Most judges have NEVER seen a real primer car. If this is the factory primer, it will be viewed as a very unique vehicle. You will receive no originality deduction for paint.

There are many of us that would love to see it on the judging field

[William L.]

Re: 71 factory primer car

In 71 think the primer was more of a samom color? Michael Hanson where are you?
Bill

[William L.]

Re: 71 factory primer car

I think that in 71 the primer was more of a samon color?
Bill

[Alan S.]

Re: 71 factory primer car

Tom,
Are you saying that this car has NEVER been painted? I can understand that occurring now, knowing how we feel factory originality; but for it to have lived so long unpainted...WOW!
Regards,
Alan

[Chuck S.]

Re: 71 factory primer car

The judging manuals are quite clear- at least the ones I have. If the trim tag says it is a 'primer' car, it must be presented in gray primer. If it is presented in any other finish, it is a 100% deduction for body colour.

Which judging manual? And, are we really talking about primer...or sealer? Primer color for 70, as in many past years, was red oxide. The next coat (sealer) was light gray on my car, but it was a white car.

[Chuck S.]

Re: 71 factory primer car

Tom,
Are you saying that this car has NEVER been painted? I can understand that occurring now, knowing how we feel factory originality; but for it to have lived so long unpainted...WOW!
Regards,
Alan

Exactly...and that's why I could never paint it. But, that primer is a flat matte finish, too...I'll bet it's stained and handprinted pretty badly by now.

For the original owner to have kept the car in primer makes you wonder if the owner was conscientious enough to keep the rest of it in "BowTie" condition.

[Michael W.]

Re: 71 factory primer car

Which judging manual? And, are we really talking about primer...or sealer? Primer color for 70, as in many past years, was red oxide. The next coat (sealer) was light gray on my car, but it was a white car.

Straight out of the '68-69 manual as well as the '73-74. I don't have a '71 book handy and know you '71 guys are 'special' but don't really think there was a major change in the intervening years.

[Chuck S.]

Re: 71 factory primer car

Straight out of the '68-69 manual as well as the '73-74. I don't have a '71 book handy and know you '71 guys are 'special' but don't really think there was a major change in the intervening years.

I don't know about "special", but I DO KNOW what color the primer was in 70, and it wasn't gray. "Which end is up" errors would never happen in 70-72 TIM&JG. HaHaHa...

Edit: Hmmmm...On second thought, I'm dragging out the Fourth Edition to take a look.

Edit2: Our boys nailed it in complete detail..."Any color coat on a car delievered in primer is cause for full deduction for wrong color. For 1970 to 1972 two coats of primer, the first red and the second gray, are applied to all jobs". Technically, I would call the second coat a sealer coat. I don't know how the factory delivered the "primer" cars, but technically, it looks like to me either color would work. By the way, what IS the color of this car anyway?

[Tom M.]

Re: 71 factory primer car

car was found in a barn (no ****) it had been wrecked in 73 , but still was in it's original primer, getting restored now in primer.