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  • Tom M.
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    • January 1, 1993
    • 716

    71 factory primer car

    1971, a car i want to buy came from the factory in primer,the original owner
    wanted a black car, he was going to have the dealer paint it black ,but never did.
    if i got the car judged NCRS what should i do , leave it primer,or paint it black ??
  • Michael W.
    Expired
    • April 1, 1997
    • 4290

    #2
    Re: 71 factory primer car

    Needs to be in the condition that the trim tag says it left the factory in to avoid point loss.

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    • Wayne W.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • April 30, 1982
      • 3605

      #3
      Re: 71 factory primer car

      In this case, I guess we would judge primer.

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      • Tom M.
        Expired
        • January 1, 1993
        • 716

        #4
        Re: 71 factory primer car

        Any body ever judge a primer car ? any thoughts ? thanks

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        • Kent K.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • December 1, 1982
          • 1139

          #5
          Re: 71 factory primer car

          While I was Cheif Judge at the Cypress Gardens event for 10 years, we had several primer cars judged. Now, if some of those judges would post, we'd be in business.
          Regards, Kent
          Kent
          1967 327/300 Convert. w/ Air - Duntoved in 1994
          1969 427/435 Coupe - 1 previous owner
          2006 Coupe - Driver & Fun Car !!!
          NCM Founder - Member #718

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          • Michael W.
            Expired
            • April 1, 1997
            • 4290

            #6
            Re: 71 factory primer car

            Originally posted by Kent Keech (6201)
            Now, if some of those judges would post, we'd be in business.
            Regards, Kent
            The judging manuals are quite clear- at least the ones I have. If the trim tag says it is a 'primer' car, it must be presented in gray primer. If it is presented in any other finish, it is a 100% deduction for body colour.

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            • Dick W.
              Former NCRS Director Region IV
              • June 30, 1985
              • 10483

              #7
              Re: 71 factory primer car

              LEAVE it in primer. Most judges have NEVER seen a real primer car. If this is the factory primer, it will be viewed as a very unique vehicle. You will receive no originality deduction for paint.

              There are many of us that would love to see it on the judging field
              Dick Whittington

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              • William L.
                Very Frequent User
                • December 1, 1988
                • 944

                #8
                Re: 71 factory primer car

                In 71 think the primer was more of a samom color? Michael Hanson where are you?
                Bill
                Bill Lacy
                1967 427/435 National Top Flight Bloomington Gold
                1998 Indy Pacecar

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                • William L.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • December 1, 1988
                  • 944

                  #9
                  Re: 71 factory primer car

                  I think that in 71 the primer was more of a samon color?
                  Bill
                  Bill Lacy
                  1967 427/435 National Top Flight Bloomington Gold
                  1998 Indy Pacecar

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                  • Alan S.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • July 31, 1989
                    • 3416

                    #10
                    Re: 71 factory primer car

                    Tom,
                    Are you saying that this car has NEVER been painted? I can understand that occurring now, knowing how we feel factory originality; but for it to have lived so long unpainted...WOW!
                    Regards,
                    Alan
                    71 Coupe, 350/270, 4 speed
                    Mason Dixon Chapter
                    Chapter Top Flight October 2011

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                    • Chuck S.
                      Expired
                      • April 1, 1992
                      • 4668

                      #11
                      Re: 71 factory primer car

                      Originally posted by Michael Ward (29001)
                      The judging manuals are quite clear- at least the ones I have. If the trim tag says it is a 'primer' car, it must be presented in gray primer. If it is presented in any other finish, it is a 100% deduction for body colour.
                      Which judging manual? And, are we really talking about primer...or sealer? Primer color for 70, as in many past years, was red oxide. The next coat (sealer) was light gray on my car, but it was a white car.

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                      • Chuck S.
                        Expired
                        • April 1, 1992
                        • 4668

                        #12
                        Re: 71 factory primer car

                        Originally posted by Alan Struck (15579)
                        Tom,
                        Are you saying that this car has NEVER been painted? I can understand that occurring now, knowing how we feel factory originality; but for it to have lived so long unpainted...WOW!
                        Regards,
                        Alan
                        Exactly...and that's why I could never paint it. But, that primer is a flat matte finish, too...I'll bet it's stained and handprinted pretty badly by now.

                        For the original owner to have kept the car in primer makes you wonder if the owner was conscientious enough to keep the rest of it in "BowTie" condition.

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                        • Michael W.
                          Expired
                          • April 1, 1997
                          • 4290

                          #13
                          Re: 71 factory primer car

                          Originally posted by Chuck Sangerhausen (20817)
                          Which judging manual? And, are we really talking about primer...or sealer? Primer color for 70, as in many past years, was red oxide. The next coat (sealer) was light gray on my car, but it was a white car.
                          Straight out of the '68-69 manual as well as the '73-74. I don't have a '71 book handy and know you '71 guys are 'special' but don't really think there was a major change in the intervening years.

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                          • Chuck S.
                            Expired
                            • April 1, 1992
                            • 4668

                            #14
                            Re: 71 factory primer car

                            Originally posted by Michael Ward (29001)
                            Straight out of the '68-69 manual as well as the '73-74. I don't have a '71 book handy and know you '71 guys are 'special' but don't really think there was a major change in the intervening years.
                            I don't know about "special", but I DO KNOW what color the primer was in 70, and it wasn't gray. "Which end is up" errors would never happen in 70-72 TIM&JG. HaHaHa...

                            Edit: Hmmmm...On second thought, I'm dragging out the Fourth Edition to take a look.

                            Edit2: Our boys nailed it in complete detail..."Any color coat on a car delievered in primer is cause for full deduction for wrong color. For 1970 to 1972 two coats of primer, the first red and the second gray, are applied to all jobs". Technically, I would call the second coat a sealer coat. I don't know how the factory delivered the "primer" cars, but technically, it looks like to me either color would work. By the way, what IS the color of this car anyway?
                            Last edited by Chuck S.; March 9, 2008, 01:56 PM.

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                            • Tom M.
                              Expired
                              • January 1, 1993
                              • 716

                              #15
                              Re: 71 factory primer car

                              car was found in a barn (no ****) it had been wrecked in 73 , but still was in it's original primer, getting restored now in primer.

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