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[Sal R.]

I have a 65 conv. painted rally red the trim code is M M does any one have a car this color I would like to re paint my car with the correct color but have no idea what it looks like
Thanks Sal

[Dick W.]

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Sal your car was Marlboro Maroon. There is a poster here, Barry Kimmelman, that has a formula for this color on his web site. His site is www.lbfun.com Go to the Corvette section, then technical. About 3/4's down that page is the PPG formula for Marlboro Maroon. It is a color matched formula and very close, not the PPG offset formula that is quite a bit off in color.

[Dick W.]

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Sal your car was Marlboro Maroon. There is a poster here, Barry Kimmelman, that has a formula for this color on his web site. His site is www.lbfun.com Go to the Corvette section, then technical. About 3/4's down that page is the PPG formula for Marlboro Maroon. It is a color matched formula and very close, not the PPG offset formula that is quite a bit off in color.

[Chuck S.]

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If you're having your car professionally painted, the painter will probably know better, but Marlboro Maroon will be VERY HARD to color match unless all body parts are painted at the same time, and in the attitude or position they will have when installed on the body.

I have a friend that is a pretty good painter refinish his 67 in Marlboro Maroon BC/CC. I tried to tell him he should paint the doors, hood, rear deck, etc ON THE CAR just like the factory did it.

Well, he's a smart guy, and where you find intelligence, you usually find self-confidence and stubborness...he painted every removeable panel off the car, in the most convenient position FOR PAINTING, and over a time period of several weeks.

When the car was finished, a discerning eye (like mine ) could see that every removeable panel was just slightly off the main body color, and no two of these panels matched. Once pointed out, the mismatch became more obvious. I didn't let him forget not taking my advice for a long time.

[Chuck S.]

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If you're having your car professionally painted, the painter will probably know better, but Marlboro Maroon will be VERY HARD to color match unless all body parts are painted at the same time, and in the attitude or position they will have when installed on the body.

I have a friend that is a pretty good painter refinish his 67 in Marlboro Maroon BC/CC. I tried to tell him he should paint the doors, hood, rear deck, etc ON THE CAR just like the factory did it.

Well, he's a smart guy, and where you find intelligence, you usually find self-confidence and stubborness...he painted every removeable panel off the car, in the most convenient position FOR PAINTING, and over a time period of several weeks.

When the car was finished, a discerning eye (like mine ) could see that every removeable panel was just slightly off the main body color, and no two of these panels matched. Once pointed out, the mismatch became more obvious. I didn't let him forget not taking my advice for a long time.

[Sal R.]

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Dick:
thank you so much you have saved me many hours of work I can't believe it when I pulled up the web site exactly what I was looking for

Thanks again Sal R

[Sal R.]

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Dick:
thank you so much you have saved me many hours of work I can't believe it when I pulled up the web site exactly what I was looking for

Thanks again Sal R

[Michael H.]

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I don't understand why anyone would ever want to panel paint a Corvette that way, even if using a non metallic color. If it's a restoration, it should be painted the same way it was painted at the factory. So what if there's no color behind the door hinges or at the bottom edge of the 1/4 panels? That's the way it's supposed to be.

[Michael H.]

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I don't understand why anyone would ever want to panel paint a Corvette that way, even if using a non metallic color. If it's a restoration, it should be painted the same way it was painted at the factory. So what if there's no color behind the door hinges or at the bottom edge of the 1/4 panels? That's the way it's supposed to be.

[Chuck S.]

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Hi Michael, good to see you back.

Individual preferences for restoration approaches varies from the purist, who wants to restore the car "just like the factory did it" right down to being willing to buy 55 gals of black primer to dip EVERYTHING that was dipped...to those that want the car to appear as the General "really intended for it to look" without the constraints of practical manufacturing compromises...all the way to customizers who want the cars to look like THEY think they appear best.

My friend and I fall somewhere in the middle...I'm much further toward the purist end, considering authenticity something to be obtained if at all possible, but I am perfectly willing to sacrifice exact authenticity if it gains me significant benefit; for example, using single stage urethane instead of accepting a compromised (IMO) current-day lacquer product.

Originality is important to him, but in this case, I don't think he realized the impact such a move would have on the color match of the metallic paint...forget the authenticity of incomplete coverage in the jambs. He opted for painting convenience, and getting full paint coverage in the jambs, bottoms of the doors...in that case, it cost him slightly. He never gets attached to the cars he restores anyway; that one is long gone...the new owner paid good money, and was pleased as punch.

I have great respect for him...He, in fact, once worked for GM Delco Products Division, right out of college. When he saw that corporate success during that period wasn't going to be completely dependent on brains and hard work, he decided to leave GM and go into business for himself. Today he's a self-made multi-millionaire, and continues to be a cunning businessman...he definitely made the right decision for himself.

[Chuck S.]

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Hi Michael, good to see you back.

Individual preferences for restoration approaches varies from the purist, who wants to restore the car "just like the factory did it" right down to being willing to buy 55 gals of black primer to dip EVERYTHING that was dipped...to those that want the car to appear as the General "really intended for it to look" without the constraints of practical manufacturing compromises...all the way to customizers who want the cars to look like THEY think they appear best.

My friend and I fall somewhere in the middle...I'm much further toward the purist end, considering authenticity something to be obtained if at all possible, but I am perfectly willing to sacrifice exact authenticity if it gains me significant benefit; for example, using single stage urethane instead of accepting a compromised (IMO) current-day lacquer product.

Originality is important to him, but in this case, I don't think he realized the impact such a move would have on the color match of the metallic paint...forget the authenticity of incomplete coverage in the jambs. He opted for painting convenience, and getting full paint coverage in the jambs, bottoms of the doors...in that case, it cost him slightly. He never gets attached to the cars he restores anyway; that one is long gone...the new owner paid good money, and was pleased as punch.

I have great respect for him...He, in fact, once worked for GM Delco Products Division, right out of college. When he saw that corporate success during that period wasn't going to be completely dependent on brains and hard work, he decided to leave GM and go into business for himself. Today he's a self-made multi-millionaire, and continues to be a cunning businessman...he definitely made the right decision for himself.

[Michael H.]

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I agree, the correct original look isn't for everyone and I can definitely see their side of this age old debate. I'm among the minority on this issue but I love the ripples, waves and textured finish on an original car. I like seeing the bare fiberglass on the bottom of a door or behind the door hinge.

I've long ago stopped (almost) trying to convince owners to restore back to original/correct but we have to admit, these cars and their poor fit/paint sure didn't turn people off when they were new on the showroom floor in the 60's.

[Michael H.]

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I agree, the correct original look isn't for everyone and I can definitely see their side of this age old debate. I'm among the minority on this issue but I love the ripples, waves and textured finish on an original car. I like seeing the bare fiberglass on the bottom of a door or behind the door hinge.

I've long ago stopped (almost) trying to convince owners to restore back to original/correct but we have to admit, these cars and their poor fit/paint sure didn't turn people off when they were new on the showroom floor in the 60's.

[Mike M.]

Milano Maroon

There was no Marlboro Maroon in 65 only Milano.

[Mike M.]

Milano Maroon

There was no Marlboro Maroon in 65 only Milano.