PF29 oil filter

[Dick W.]

Re: PF29 oil filter

It has always been standard practice to use the best available knowledge when judging a car. The filter, for example, has been talked about on this board for over a year, maybe two years. The manuals, no matter how hard you try to include everything, are subject to additional information.

It was purposely decided to hold off calling the PF-25 incorrect for the '68 until there was reproduction. We did not want to creat an artificial market for some unobtanium part where you would pay $150 up for a filter. Just look at the air cleaner elements. Sure the filters are not 100% as the PF-25's are not either, but they are very close. I have one of the first samples on the cabinet behind my desk.

[Dick W.]

Re: PF29 oil filter

It has always been standard practice to use the best available knowledge when judging a car. The filter, for example, has been talked about on this board for over a year, maybe two years. The manuals, no matter how hard you try to include everything, are subject to additional information.

It was purposely decided to hold off calling the PF-25 incorrect for the '68 until there was reproduction. We did not want to creat an artificial market for some unobtanium part where you would pay $150 up for a filter. Just look at the air cleaner elements. Sure the filters are not 100% as the PF-25's are not either, but they are very close. I have one of the first samples on the cabinet behind my desk.

[Terry M.]

[Terry M.]

[Dave S.]

Re: PF29 oil filter

Terry,
I hope the repro matches the original. That makes it easy. However our respondsibility as a judge is to compare parts to originals and comment accordingly. If the original PF-29 has painting/lettering that is of poor quality and the reproduction has a nice/eat paint/lettering scheme (like the PF-25's did) then it is a deviation from an original and should be judged accordingly. Isn't that what the process is all about.??

[Dave S.]

Re: PF29 oil filter

Terry,
I hope the repro matches the original. That makes it easy. However our respondsibility as a judge is to compare parts to originals and comment accordingly. If the original PF-29 has painting/lettering that is of poor quality and the reproduction has a nice/eat paint/lettering scheme (like the PF-25's did) then it is a deviation from an original and should be judged accordingly. Isn't that what the process is all about.??

[Chuck S.]

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[Terry M.]

Re: PF29 oil filter

Dave -- If you know that ALL PF29s were as sloppy as your example -- have at it.

[Terry M.]

Re: PF29 oil filter

Dave -- If you know that ALL PF29s were as sloppy as your example -- have at it.

[Robert C.]

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[Robert C.]

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[Chuck S.]

Bob, I Think You Mean...Hunnnh??!!

Nevermind...It seemed witty at the time.

[Chuck S.]

Bob, I Think You Mean...Hunnnh??!!

Nevermind...It seemed witty at the time.

[Don G.]

Re: PF29 oil filter

The lettering on white PF29 and PF25 oil filters was done by a silk-screening process. The quality of this process was affected by the number of cycles a particular silk-screen had produced, the amount of ink in the reservoir, and the machine set-up such as squeegee pressure, alignment, etc. As a result, wide variation in the result is normal for this process. When a new silk-screen was installed and the proper set-up was made, the printing was usually sharp and consistent. As the silk-screen became worn and machine set-up drifted, the printing would become "fuzzy". It was also known by the operators if the oil filters were going into individual resale boxes or being shipped in bulk to assembly plants. This may have also affected visual standards since it doesn't affect filter performance.

In summary, as a judge, I would tend to accept a rather wide variation in printing quality as "typical factory production". However, any variation in printing fonts , orientation or wording( such as bilingual) would be an indication of a reproduction or perhaps a fraudelant copy.

However, we must keep in perspective that this level of detail is only important to the purists who want to "get it right" and preserve the historical significance. The originality points involved would rarely, if ever, result in falling short of an NCRS award.