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  • Mike M.
    NCRS Past President
    • May 31, 1974
    • 8362

    57-65 FI question

    anybody out there with a faily unmolested 57 to 65 FI, check the oil line that lubricates the FI ignition distributor. it runs from the 3 port distribution block that threads into the top right rear of the engine block to a 90 degree brass elboe on the back side of the distributor housing.Check and see if this steel line to the distributor is a copper coated line.Most , if not all repo distributor oiling systems that have been available for years are either non-copper coated steel lines or pure copper lines(magnet will differentiate).thanks, mike and the 56-57 judging manual revision team.
  • Michael H.
    Expired
    • January 28, 2008
    • 7477

    #2
    Re: 57-65 FI question

    You talkin about this copper line? The one I'm holding up with this magnet? Yea, must be copper because it looks like copper.




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    • Michael H.
      Expired
      • January 28, 2008
      • 7477

      #3
      Re: 57-65 FI question

      You talkin about this copper line? The one I'm holding up with this magnet? Yea, must be copper because it looks like copper.




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      • Chuck B.
        Very Frequent User
        • August 31, 1987
        • 121

        #4
        Re: 57-65 FI question

        My 1960 250 FI has a copper colored steel line. Bought the car from the original owner in 1989. Had been sitting since 1973.

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        • Chuck B.
          Very Frequent User
          • August 31, 1987
          • 121

          #5
          Re: 57-65 FI question

          My 1960 250 FI has a copper colored steel line. Bought the car from the original owner in 1989. Had been sitting since 1973.

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          • Duke W.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • December 31, 1992
            • 15597

            #6
            Re: 57-65 FI question

            We've been through this discussion many times with the oil pressure sensing line.

            They are copper plated STEEL, but some bozo repro guy decided it was copper, and they are probably still being sold.

            Copper is a very poor material for any application that sees vibration because it work hardens rapidly, becomes brittle, and then breaks.

            No legitimate engineer would use common copper tubing ANYWHERE in a car.

            No doubt the FI distributor line you are talking about is the same material as the oil pressure sensing line - copper plated STEEL.

            Anyone who buys any of these lines from repro vendors should test them with a magnet. If they are non-magnetic, RETURN THEM, and try to talk some sense into the vendor.

            Duke

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            • Duke W.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • December 31, 1992
              • 15597

              #7
              Re: 57-65 FI question

              We've been through this discussion many times with the oil pressure sensing line.

              They are copper plated STEEL, but some bozo repro guy decided it was copper, and they are probably still being sold.

              Copper is a very poor material for any application that sees vibration because it work hardens rapidly, becomes brittle, and then breaks.

              No legitimate engineer would use common copper tubing ANYWHERE in a car.

              No doubt the FI distributor line you are talking about is the same material as the oil pressure sensing line - copper plated STEEL.

              Anyone who buys any of these lines from repro vendors should test them with a magnet. If they are non-magnetic, RETURN THEM, and try to talk some sense into the vendor.

              Duke

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              • Michael H.
                Expired
                • January 28, 2008
                • 7477

                #8
                Re: 57-65 FI question

                Here's an original. It still has almost all of it's original copper plate coating but under the coating it is definitely steel.




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                • Michael H.
                  Expired
                  • January 28, 2008
                  • 7477

                  #9
                  Re: 57-65 FI question

                  Here's an original. It still has almost all of it's original copper plate coating but under the coating it is definitely steel.




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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • January 31, 1988
                    • 43191

                    #10
                    Re: 57-65 FI question

                    Duke-----

                    I agree. I don't think that copper tubing was used for any modern, automotive application. By "modern" I mean in the last 50 years, or so. Prior to that, copper may have been used for some things.

                    I don't understand why copper plated steel was used for a few applications (like the FI oil feed line and the oil pressure tube used for some applications). I just don't see what benefit this produced over plain, old TBW.
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                    • Joe L.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • January 31, 1988
                      • 43191

                      #11
                      Re: 57-65 FI question

                      Duke-----

                      I agree. I don't think that copper tubing was used for any modern, automotive application. By "modern" I mean in the last 50 years, or so. Prior to that, copper may have been used for some things.

                      I don't understand why copper plated steel was used for a few applications (like the FI oil feed line and the oil pressure tube used for some applications). I just don't see what benefit this produced over plain, old TBW.
                      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                      • Duke W.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • December 31, 1992
                        • 15597

                        #12
                        Re: 57-65 FI question

                        I also don't understand why they used copper plating instead of a zinc or cadmium plating - similar to brake lines.

                        Possibly the copper plating is more corrosion resistant, but then those oil feed/pressure line applications are not in a high corrosion area since they doesn't see road splash like brake lines.

                        ...one of those mysteries I'm still trying to figure out.

                        Duke

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                        • Duke W.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • December 31, 1992
                          • 15597

                          #13
                          Re: 57-65 FI question

                          I also don't understand why they used copper plating instead of a zinc or cadmium plating - similar to brake lines.

                          Possibly the copper plating is more corrosion resistant, but then those oil feed/pressure line applications are not in a high corrosion area since they doesn't see road splash like brake lines.

                          ...one of those mysteries I'm still trying to figure out.

                          Duke

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                          • Mike L.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • December 31, 1985
                            • 312

                            #14
                            Re: 57-65 FI question

                            Mike I have a unrestored 65 unit the line is copper plated over steel.

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                            • Mike L.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • December 31, 1985
                              • 312

                              #15
                              Re: 57-65 FI question

                              Mike I have a unrestored 65 unit the line is copper plated over steel.

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