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  • Dick W.
    Former NCRS Director Region IV
    • June 30, 1985
    • 10483

    #16
    Re: Addendum

    Joe, I believe that these numbers carried over from the 1st Ed. of the manual. Written in 1984.
    Dick Whittington

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    • Dick W.
      Former NCRS Director Region IV
      • June 30, 1985
      • 10483

      #17
      Re: Addendum

      Joe, I believe that these numbers carried over from the 1st Ed. of the manual. Written in 1984.
      Dick Whittington

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      • Dick W.
        Former NCRS Director Region IV
        • June 30, 1985
        • 10483

        #18
        Re: Addendum

        There is a poster on here that could answer this question if he sees it. He works/worked for Saginaw Gray Iron. He has furnished me info, right out of the SGI archives, on C-2 manifolds. Maybe he will shed more light on the subject
        Dick Whittington

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        • Dick W.
          Former NCRS Director Region IV
          • June 30, 1985
          • 10483

          #19
          Re: Addendum

          There is a poster on here that could answer this question if he sees it. He works/worked for Saginaw Gray Iron. He has furnished me info, right out of the SGI archives, on C-2 manifolds. Maybe he will shed more light on the subject
          Dick Whittington

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          • Jim B.
            Very Frequent User
            • July 31, 2002
            • 146

            #20
            Re: 68-69 Judging Guide-manifold #'s ??

            So to paraphrase... we have found a glitch in the Spec Guide and Judging Manual?? Which call for the 3872778. I have to tell you that us 68 owners are finding new things all the time. I think they changed parts at the start of each manufacturing day on the 68 line. I would also say that most of the discoveries are on the small block side since everyone knows that most corvettes are big blocks anyway.

            So If I can find a 3932461, how do I get it past the judges??

            Dick????

            Jim B
            Jim Boudreaux
            LA Chapter, NCRS

            _____________________________
            1968 British Green Convertible 327/350HP Original Owner
            2002 Z06 Black on Black Original Owner
            2007 Z06 Velocity Yellow w/Black/Titainium Original Owner

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            • Jim B.
              Very Frequent User
              • July 31, 2002
              • 146

              #21
              Re: 68-69 Judging Guide-manifold #'s ??

              So to paraphrase... we have found a glitch in the Spec Guide and Judging Manual?? Which call for the 3872778. I have to tell you that us 68 owners are finding new things all the time. I think they changed parts at the start of each manufacturing day on the 68 line. I would also say that most of the discoveries are on the small block side since everyone knows that most corvettes are big blocks anyway.

              So If I can find a 3932461, how do I get it past the judges??

              Dick????

              Jim B
              Jim Boudreaux
              LA Chapter, NCRS

              _____________________________
              1968 British Green Convertible 327/350HP Original Owner
              2002 Z06 Black on Black Original Owner
              2007 Z06 Velocity Yellow w/Black/Titainium Original Owner

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              • Joe L.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • February 1, 1988
                • 43219

                #22
                Re: 68-69 Judging Guide-manifold #'s ??

                Jim------

                It would be nice to hear what others with known-original 68 small blocks have for the right side manifold. I think we even have one or two folks on this board that have original owner 68 small blocks.
                In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                • Joe L.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • February 1, 1988
                  • 43219

                  #23
                  Re: 68-69 Judging Guide-manifold #'s ??

                  Jim------

                  It would be nice to hear what others with known-original 68 small blocks have for the right side manifold. I think we even have one or two folks on this board that have original owner 68 small blocks.
                  In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • February 1, 1988
                    • 43219

                    #24
                    Addendum

                    Jim----

                    Also, keep in mind that I could very well be "all wet" on this 1968 right side manifold thing. It is very possible that the 3872778 was used for all or most of 1968. As I mentioned previously, there really is no functional difference between the 3872778 and the 3932461. Either one could have been used or they could even have been used interchangeably. Certainly, the 3872778 was "around at the time" and, it appears to me, the 3932461 would have "been around", too.

                    The thing that makes me wonder is why they ever changed from the 3872778 to the 3932461, at all. There must have been a reason for it, though. Now, to me, that's where things get real interesting. Much more interesting than whether 1968 used the 3872778 or the 3932461.
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                    • Joe L.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • February 1, 1988
                      • 43219

                      #25
                      Addendum

                      Jim----

                      Also, keep in mind that I could very well be "all wet" on this 1968 right side manifold thing. It is very possible that the 3872778 was used for all or most of 1968. As I mentioned previously, there really is no functional difference between the 3872778 and the 3932461. Either one could have been used or they could even have been used interchangeably. Certainly, the 3872778 was "around at the time" and, it appears to me, the 3932461 would have "been around", too.

                      The thing that makes me wonder is why they ever changed from the 3872778 to the 3932461, at all. There must have been a reason for it, though. Now, to me, that's where things get real interesting. Much more interesting than whether 1968 used the 3872778 or the 3932461.
                      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                      • Anthony S.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • April 3, 2008
                        • 183

                        #26
                        Re: 68-69 Judging Guide-manifold #'s ??

                        Joe,

                        I just had my original '68 327/300 rebuilt. I had exhaust manifold 3872765 (casting date L-11) on the left & the 3872778 (casting date K-29) on the right.

                        The engine build date was 12-27-67. The manifolds had the A.I.R. holse plugged.

                        There were no gaskets between the manifold & the block, so I'm assuming they've been there since January 24, 1968 (VIN #9736).

                        Anthony

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                        • Anthony S.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • April 3, 2008
                          • 183

                          #27
                          Re: 68-69 Judging Guide-manifold #'s ??

                          Joe,

                          I just had my original '68 327/300 rebuilt. I had exhaust manifold 3872765 (casting date L-11) on the left & the 3872778 (casting date K-29) on the right.

                          The engine build date was 12-27-67. The manifolds had the A.I.R. holse plugged.

                          There were no gaskets between the manifold & the block, so I'm assuming they've been there since January 24, 1968 (VIN #9736).

                          Anthony

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                          • Steve G.
                            Expired
                            • May 31, 1994
                            • 230

                            #28
                            Re: Addendum

                            OK, is it fair to say that we have established that: #765 is correct for LH 1968 and 1969; #778 is correct for 1968 RH; #461 or #481 is correct for 1969 RH, as long as there are AIR provisions. Some people are saying there isnt a 481, some are, and I see some say there are 461s without AIR provisions as seen in 1970. It is unclear if the #461 is correct for 1968. Other numbers are incorrect for 1868-69, yes?

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                            • Steve G.
                              Expired
                              • May 31, 1994
                              • 230

                              #29
                              Re: Addendum

                              OK, is it fair to say that we have established that: #765 is correct for LH 1968 and 1969; #778 is correct for 1968 RH; #461 or #481 is correct for 1969 RH, as long as there are AIR provisions. Some people are saying there isnt a 481, some are, and I see some say there are 461s without AIR provisions as seen in 1970. It is unclear if the #461 is correct for 1968. Other numbers are incorrect for 1868-69, yes?

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                              • Steve G.
                                Expired
                                • May 31, 1994
                                • 230

                                #30
                                Re: Addendum

                                Last line s/b "1968-69." Duh. Where's the edit function?

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