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  • Jimmy G.
    Very Frequent User
    • October 31, 1979
    • 975

    The End of an Era ??

    Went to buy a set of tires for my 67. Wanted 205 x 75 - 15 BW tires. Guess what?? No American brand is available except Firestone winter only tires. Hate to do it but it looks like my 67 will be sporting a set of Toyo tires. Toyo tires for the most part are made here in Cartersville, GA as they were a customer of mine during my working time. This really stinks !!!!! Anyone know any thing different let me know -- PLEASE.
    Founder - Carolinas Chapter NCRS
  • Mark D.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • June 30, 1988
    • 2142

    #2
    Oh, the humanity! Sell the car:-))
    Kramden

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    • Mark E.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • March 31, 1993
      • 4498

      #3
      If it's any consolation, C8 is factory equipped with tires from a French company.
      Mark Edmondson
      Dallas, Texas
      Texas Chapter

      1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
      1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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      • Michael J.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • January 26, 2009
        • 7076

        #4
        Tire Rack shows Hankook tires in that size. Some are made in the US, in Tennessee, including passenger car radials, not sure about these: https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...omCompare1=yes
        Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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        • Duke W.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • December 31, 1992
          • 15614

          #5
          The tire landscape is constantly changing, and like so much other American manufacturing, it's been moving offshore for decades, and Thailand has become a very popular country for tire manufacturing.

          I prefer American "brand" tires on American cars, European "brands" on European cars, and Japanese "brands" on Japanese cars. I say "brands" because the brand name says nothing about where the tire is manufactured. It's a global industry, and the U. S. market is now flooded with previously unheard of "brands" all of which are made offshore.

          I've been searching replacements for the 205/55ZR-15 Dunlop Sport 8000s (actually made in Japan back when Sumitomo owned the "Dunlop" brand, which is now owned by Goodyear) for my '88 MBZ 190E 2.6 special order five-speed. They're 25 years old, still have 4-5/32nds thread, but given the short sidewalls and age they are getting pretty hard and making the ride noticeably harsh. This time I want 205/60s to soften the ride. A few years ago I missed out on a set of Vredestrein Sportrac 5, summer high performance tires, H or V speed rated, UTQG rating 300 AA before they went out of production. The wear rating is relatively low, and that means a sticky compound. I don't need ever a 30K mile tire on a car I drive only a few hundred miles per year.

          In my latest search I found a candidate tire - Otani KC 2000, 320 AA with large tread blocks, no sipping, so on paper it's definitely a summer high performance tire. Since I don't drive on freeways anymore I don't need a 150 MPH tire, but what I demand is the safety of a spiral wound nylon cap belt that will keep the tire intact in the event of an internal structural failure, and any tire rated H or above should have this feature. The typical S or T rated "all-season" tires don't. I call them "van tires", but I wouldn't mount such tires on a van even if I owned one.

          Just for the heck of it I thought I'd check what is currently available in the 215/70R-15 size that will fit the OE wheels on all C2/3 models and is either the same revs per mile (775) as the OE 7.75-15, F70-15, and 255/70-15 or just slightly greater than the OE 6.70-15, GR70-15 and 225/70R-15 (760), and it turns out "Otani" has one. It's a different model, EK1000, V-rated, UTQG 500, so it's a bit harder compound, but it has a decent thread design with relatively large tread blocks and minimal siping; and price is 300 bucks delivered! Amazing!

          If you can't stand the off-brand name and other "artwork" on the sidewall you should be able to find a tire shop that can buff it off leaving a plain black sidewall.

          ​​​​https://www.tires-easy.com/215-70-15...specifications

          A few years ago I bought what might have been the last set of V-rated Firestone 225/70R-15 PV-41 "police pursut tires" from this outfit. IIRC they are an American subsidiary of a German company, located in Oregon, and shipping to my CA address was free.

          Duke

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          • Harry S.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • July 31, 2002
            • 5262

            #6
            Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
            Tire Rack shows Hankook tires in that size. Some are made in the US, in Tennessee, including passenger car radials, not sure about these: https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...omCompare1=yes
            The are the Hankook WW's ---> 205/75R15 Hankook Kinergy ST H735 97T SL White Wall Tire


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            • Michael J.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • January 26, 2009
              • 7076

              #7
              Originally posted by Harry Sadlock (38513)

              The are the Hankook WW's ---> 205/75R15 Hankook Kinergy ST H735 97T SL White Wall Tire
              I think Jimmy wanted black wall tires like the ones I linked to.
              Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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              • Harry S.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • July 31, 2002
                • 5262

                #8
                Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)

                I think Jimmy wanted black wall tires like the ones I linked to.
                Agree, I put that up so if others are looking for WW tires.


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                • John F.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • March 23, 2008
                  • 2395

                  #9
                  Have you checked Discount Tire?

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                  • Patrick H.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • November 30, 1989
                    • 11611

                    #10
                    Apparently Goodyear makes some 217-70R15s for some tires stores that are available:



                    So, you can avoid an off-brand if you wish new tires for your C3.
                    Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                    71 "deer modified" coupe
                    72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                    2008 coupe
                    Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                    • Kent S.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • January 31, 1993
                      • 203

                      #11
                      Diamondback has a blackwall radial tire that looks like a bias ply with the piecrust - 670/15". Have had them on my '65 for 4 years - perfect look and high quality. Others might be interested in the fact that they can apply a vulcanized stripe to the sidewall (my '65 has goldlines).

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                      • Patrick H.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • November 30, 1989
                        • 11611

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Kent Schoneman (22231)
                        Diamondback has a blackwall radial tire that looks like a bias ply with the piecrust
                        Is there a manufacturer's name on the inner side of the tire?
                        Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                        71 "deer modified" coupe
                        72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                        2008 coupe
                        Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                        • Kent S.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • January 31, 1993
                          • 203

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)

                          Is there a manufacturer's name on the inner side of the tire?
                          It's their tire - believe it's called an Auburn

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                          • Jimmy G.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • October 31, 1979
                            • 975

                            #14
                            Toyo made in Cartersville, GA 205x75 - 15 $103 each Discount Tire Not happy, but it is what it is.
                            Founder - Carolinas Chapter NCRS

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                            • Donald O.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • May 31, 1990
                              • 1581

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Harry Sadlock (38513)

                              The are the Hankook WW's ---> 205/75R15 Hankook Kinergy ST H735 97T SL White Wall Tire
                              Do their WW stay white or turn brown like Coopers et al?
                              The light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.

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