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  • Larry E.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • December 1, 1989
    • 1681

    #31
    All I know is I have two C2 Corvettes with identical brake systems although with different
    types of brake fluid. Both are stored in identical ways. (Non-Heated building in Car Bags)
    for a year or more at a time. Temps and Humidity vary a lot since In Illinois we have temps
    over 100 and -10 degrees for the year. Both car results when taken out of the bag in the
    Spring are the same. Brake Fluid must be added to both but once added no more is needed
    for the 5 month Summer use. Would like to hear from someone else that stores their cars
    like me with the similar degrees on the outside of their building. Thanks for all the comments.
    Larry
    Larry

    LT1 in a 1LE -- One of 134

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    • Mark F.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • July 31, 1998
      • 1534

      #32
      Larry,

      a few data points regarding brake fluid and water - not an answer to your question; but as others have already commented - at least elimination of one hypothesis IMO

      Brake fluid vapor pressure is almost non-existent: < 0.01 mmHg @68° F
      By comparison, water vapor pressure @ 68° is roughly 17.5 mmHg (~ 1,750 x higher than Brake Fluid) and almost 50mmHg @ 100°F ! (~ 5,000 x higher than Brake Fluid)
      So, your brake fluid is NOT evaporating anywhere near the losses you're seeing, IMO.

      Also, your white pellets are probably calcium chloride (used as a desiccant).
      It does not cause water (nor does anything else other than HEAT) to evaporate at a higher rate - it simply adsorbs the vaporized state of water (AKA humidity) from the air, which then goes into solution w/ the salt (deliquescence).
      Kind of like when you leave leftover rock salt (sodium chloride) in your garage over the summer and it gets all caked up and gooey.
      So, your "weed killer" is probably just a high concentration of salt water
      thx,
      Mark

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      • Larry E.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • December 1, 1989
        • 1681

        #33
        Thanks Mark for nice response. Now:
        There must be some people on the board that use "Car Bags" to store their vehicles
        during the Winter or longer storage. I believe that there will be many more going this
        route in the future. To heat and dehumidify a building is getting to the point of excessive
        cost. Just got my Ameren Utility bill in and was the highest I ever got.(For my house) There are people
        I know with bigger houses and different Furnace/A-C systems that are getting billed
        for $700 per month in Illinois. And this can get only worse. JMHO-Larry
        Larry

        LT1 in a 1LE -- One of 134

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        • Duke W.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • January 1, 1993
          • 15680

          #34
          Originally posted by Mark Francis (30800)
          Larry,

          a few data points regarding brake fluid and water - not an answer to your question; but as others have already commented - at least elimination of one hypothesis IMO

          Brake fluid vapor pressure is almost non-existent: < 0.01 mmHg @68° F
          By comparison, water vapor pressure @ 68° is roughly 17.5 mmHg (~ 1,750 x higher than Brake Fluid) and almost 50mmHg @ 100°F ! (~ 5,000 x higher than Brake Fluid)
          So, your brake fluid is NOT evaporating anywhere near the losses you're seeing, IMO.

          Also, your white pellets are probably calcium chloride (used as a desiccant).
          It does not cause water (nor does anything else other than HEAT) to evaporate at a higher rate - it simply adsorbs the vaporized state of water (AKA humidity) from the air, which then goes into solution w/ the salt (deliquescence).
          Kind of like when you leave leftover rock salt (sodium chloride) in your garage over the summer and it gets all caked up and gooey.
          So, your "weed killer" is probably just a high concentration of salt water
          Excellent data and analysis. I agree that the brake fluid loss is not from vaporization. It has to be leaking, maybe from multiple locations. I can't think of any other rational explanation.

          As most may know liquids cannot exist in a vacuum like outer space. Since all liquids have a vapor pressure they will eventually evaporate in a vacuum, but the lower the vapor pressure, the longer it takes. With a vapor pressure of less than 0.01 mm Hg at room temperature and sea level atmospheric pressure, an ounce to two in a small cup would likely take years to completely evaporate

          Duke

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