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  • Larry E.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • December 1, 1989
    • 1677

    Just Bought A AC Delco Group 34 Battery From Menards For $99.00 For My C2

    FWIW> Just bought the above which includes the rebate for my 66 Corvette. Yes
    I know the Group 24 Battery is Correct but the Group 34 is identical except for
    being 1" shorter which is very much welcomed for installation. Sale will go on till
    3/10/24 AFAIK. Thanks>Larry
    Larry

    LT1 in a 1LE -- One of 134
  • Harry S.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • July 31, 2002
    • 5295

    #2
    Re: Just Bought A AC Delco Group 34 Battery From Menards For $99.00 For My C2

    Originally posted by Larry Evoskis (16324)
    FWIW> Just bought the above which includes the rebate for my 66 Corvette. Yes
    I know the Group 24 Battery is Correct but the Group 34 is identical except for
    being 1" shorter which is very much welcomed for installation. Sale will go on till
    3/10/24 AFAIK. Thanks>Larry
    For judging there is no additional deduction because it's a Group 34.


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    • Michael J.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • January 27, 2009
      • 7122

      #3
      Re: Just Bought A AC Delco Group 34 Battery From Menards For $99.00 For My C2

      There should be.
      Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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      • Kent S.
        Very Frequent User
        • February 1, 1993
        • 203

        #4
        Re: Just Bought A AC Delco Group 34 Battery From Menards For $99.00 For My C2

        I thought modern Delco batteries have a standard deduction.

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        • Kurt K.
          Very Frequent User
          • June 30, 2004
          • 194

          #5
          Re: Just Bought A AC Delco Group 34 Battery From Menards For $99.00 For My C2

          25% Deduction. Delco, "correctly-sized" service replacement. The way I read the Battery Standard Deduction, 100% deduction, originality and condition for all others. If the size of the Delco battery is not correct, 100% deduction?

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          • Larry E.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • December 1, 1989
            • 1677

            #6
            Re: Just Bought A AC Delco Group 34 Battery From Menards For $99.00 For My C2

            Believe the judges would be hard pressed to tell the difference. It would be very hard to
            measure the true height of the battery. (Gr. 24 VS. Gr. 34) With the battery shields, hold
            downs and the use of "battery mats" it would be very hard to measure. See Below:
            Of course JMHO>Larry P.S. When I compared the both batteries the difference was less
            then 1".
            Attached Files
            Larry

            LT1 in a 1LE -- One of 134

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            • Joseph S.
              National Judging Chairman
              • March 1, 1985
              • 868

              #7
              Re: Just Bought A AC Delco Group 34 Battery From Menards For $99.00 For My C2

              Group 24 & 34 are both acceptable Delco batteries for 63-64 Judging. The team will judge both the same. Standard deduct of 25%.

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              • Michael J.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • January 27, 2009
                • 7122

                #8
                Re: Just Bought A AC Delco Group 34 Battery From Menards For $99.00 For My C2

                Thanks for that clarification Joe, left to my own devices if I saw a 34 on it instead of a 24 I would have done a full deduct.
                Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                • Joseph S.
                  National Judging Chairman
                  • March 1, 1985
                  • 868

                  #9
                  Re: Just Bought A AC Delco Group 34 Battery From Menards For $99.00 For My C2

                  Mike, It would have to fall into the "Significantly Dissimilar" category to get the full deduct.

                  I would say that since groups 24 & 34 are the same size (Width and Length), and fit the holders the same, we should consider them proper. The height difference is pretty insignificant. With the Naked Eye they both appear the same!

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                  • Michael J.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • January 27, 2009
                    • 7122

                    #10
                    Re: Just Bought A AC Delco Group 34 Battery From Menards For $99.00 For My C2

                    That makes sense Joe, I have never seen a 34 next to a 24 so would probably not know without the number on it then.
                    Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                    • Michael H.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • December 1, 1987
                      • 728

                      #11
                      Re: Just Bought A AC Delco Group 34 Battery From Menards For $99.00 For My C2

                      Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
                      Thanks for that clarification Joe, left to my own devices if I saw a 34 on it instead of a 24 I would have done a full deduct.
                      I agree with you Mike, it should be a full deduction as it's not the correct size.

                      Mike

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                      • Michael H.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • December 1, 1987
                        • 728

                        #12
                        Re: Just Bought A AC Delco Group 34 Battery From Menards For $99.00 For My C2

                        Originally posted by Joseph Scafidi (8321)
                        Mike, It would have to fall into the "Significantly Dissimilar" category to get the full deduct.

                        I would say that since groups 24 & 34 are the same size (Width and Length), and fit the holders the same, we should consider them proper. The height difference is pretty insignificant. With the Naked Eye they both appear the same!
                        Joe, The 34 series is 1" shorter in height, if it was installed in a 67 you could see the difference as it would be below the edge of the heat shield by 1". When I read the standard deduct table for 25% it says " Delco, correctly sized service replacement with appropriate top or side post configuration " The correct size is a 24 series not a 34 series and they still make the 24 series so it should be 100% deduct for incorrect size.

                        Mike

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                        • Joseph S.
                          National Judging Chairman
                          • March 1, 1985
                          • 868

                          #13
                          Re: Just Bought A AC Delco Group 34 Battery From Menards For $99.00 For My C2

                          Mike, This is a standard deduct item. It is not that subjective. As the 63-64 Team Leader, I would not allow any of my judges to take a larger deduction than the 25% for a group 34 Battery correctly installed with all the hardware.

                          If you feel it's a larger deduction than that, discuss it with your team leader. See what he thinks.

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                          • Michael H.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • December 1, 1987
                            • 728

                            #14
                            Re: Just Bought A AC Delco Group 34 Battery From Menards For $99.00 For My C2

                            Originally posted by Joseph Scafidi (8321)
                            Mike, This is a standard deduct item. It is not that subjective. As the 63-64 Team Leader, I would not allow any of my judges to take a larger deduction than the 25% for a group 34 Battery correctly installed with all the hardware.

                            If you feel it's a larger deduction than that, discuss it with your team leader. See what he thinks.
                            Joe,

                            Has then been discussed with Dave B ? If it has and he agrees then the Standard Deduction defintion of 25% " correctly sized service replacement "needs to be changed to eliminate confussion.

                            Just my .02

                            Mike

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                            • Bill M.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • July 31, 1989
                              • 1322

                              #15
                              Re: Just Bought A AC Delco Group 34 Battery From Menards For $99.00 For My C2

                              You would have to thread down and cut the excess rod off of the J hook. Or make up a spacer for under the battery and see how the battery stays put after a few good runs on a windy road.

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