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  • Grahame M.
    Very Frequent User
    • November 6, 2011
    • 224

    Fuel leak 69 Tripower

    Hi All.

    I have a fuel leak from the carby area into the valley but i can't see it when the engine is running and at operating temp.

    Some background, last weekend I trailered the car to get a wheel alignment. The car was dificult to start but could have been me tickling the gas pedal a bit much. It finally started and was idleing well and went on the trailer fine. When i got to the workshop the car ran out of fuel (my bad) and the tech put some of his gas in the car, basic gas 91 RON i think. He squirted some starter fluid down the centre carb and it started and drove ok while i put it on the wheel aligner hoist.

    Once it was completed i drove it out of the workshop, took it down the road to check the steering wheel alignment and put it back on the trailer. It was when i had parked it on the trailer I noticed a strong fuel smell but thought it was maybe the carb playing up a bit as the car has sat in the garage for some years and this was the first drive. Once i got it back home i noticed the smell again so I drove it up the driveway and into the garage. My wife said she could see petrol coming from the front of the car and on the driveway while i was turning into the garage. My driveway is steep and a right turn at the top to park in the garage.

    I checked the the engine and noticed the valley low points where all full of gas but i couldn't see where it was coming from. I cleaned it down and got back to it a couple of days later. It started ok and idled well with the chock on, but no visable leak. the engine started to idle slower once the choke came off so i gave it a slow rev and it evened out. I then checked the idle mixture and the drivers side (still left hand drive) didn't faulter like it had on previous adjustments, screwed it all the way in and nothing. The passengers side did reduce in revs and almost stalled, so i adjusted to the correct position. Still no leak visable. I don't think its anything but the guy left the fuel cap loose when he put the gas in.

    Then, I went out to the garage again today to check and there was fuel on the passengers side valley (please see pics), i have no idea where its coming from. The only thing i can see is its wet above the base plate.

    I'm sorry for the diatribe but wanted to mention eveything that happened just in case something jumps out to those smarter than me. I'm thinking I need to strip down the carbs and clean everything. There has been no backfiring or running rough up until the W/A. I had just finished tuning the carbs and timing in line with Lars's papers and it was running well. One more thing, while the car was off the road i had the tank chemically cleaned and replaced the sender.

    Any help would be very much appreciated as I now want to go for along drive and enjoy my car.

    Cheers
    Grahame
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    69 427 Tri-Power 4 Speed
    Black on Black
  • Timothy B.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 30, 1983
    • 5177

    #2
    Re: Fuel leak 69 Tripower

    Great post explaining the details of your problem. My best guess is that gaskets have dried out and there is an internal leak inside the carburetor, probably the metering block to main body gasket. Usually this will leak internally and when the engine is off it will seep inside and run out the throttle shafts and down on the intake manifold.

    I have also experienced the needle and seat not seal properly until it gets wet again causing a high float level so don't rule that out along with the power valve gasket. The fact that on of the emulsion screw does not effect engine speed at idle tells you there is something leaking internally. If you are so inclined a good overhaul along with checking surface flatness would be a good idea.

    You may get away with just new gaskets just don't over tighten things when you reassemble.

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    • Lawrence S.
      Very Frequent User
      • March 31, 1993
      • 775

      #3
      Re: Fuel leak 69 Tripower

      During Covid I rebuilt 8 carbs. Went to the parts store bought a gallon of carb cleaner with a basket bought the kits and rebuilt the carbs on my L71, AAR Cuda, L79, and L36. Still enjoying the rebuilds today. I agree with Tim. I would remove all three do a thorough cleaning and put new parts in each carb. I am sure you know but a Holley sitting up for a period of time equals leaks. Good Luck!

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      • Chris H.
        Very Frequent User
        • March 31, 2000
        • 837

        #4
        Re: Fuel leak 69 Tripower

        Yes as others have stated if these cars sit for an extended period (few months) the gaskets can dry out. Happens on my car every spring after winter hibernation and fixes itself after the first ride.
        1969 Riverside Gold Coupe, L71, 14,000 miles. Top Flight, 2 Star Bowtie.

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        • Grahame M.
          Very Frequent User
          • November 6, 2011
          • 224

          #5
          Re: Fuel leak 69 Tripower

          Thank you all for your responses. Looks like i need to clear some space on my bench to do a full clean and rebuild. Lucky i have a good Holley supply shop, for parts, here in Oz, who originally refurbished (recoloured) these cabs 11 years ago.

          Thank you again, this is a great site to access vast levels of experience for us very remote corvette owners.

          Cheers
          Grahame
          69 427 Tri-Power 4 Speed
          Black on Black

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          • Grahame M.
            Very Frequent User
            • November 6, 2011
            • 224

            #6
            Re: Fuel leak 69 Tripower

            Hi Everyone,

            So i have a few issues with the carbs after disassembly where i need to buy some parts, vac housing, choke diaphragm and some rods and clips and i'm looking for a recommendation on a suitable supplier. New or serviceable used would both be ok as i can get them recoloured/plated here in Oz. The only issue is i need the supplier to ship to Australia.

            Cheers
            Grahame
            69 427 Tri-Power 4 Speed
            Black on Black

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            • Grahame M.
              Very Frequent User
              • November 6, 2011
              • 224

              #7
              Re: Fuel leak 69 Tripower

              Hi Everyone,

              Still looking for a supplier in the states for Tri Power parts that ships to Australia, any help would be very much appreciated.

              Cheers
              Grahame
              69 427 Tri-Power 4 Speed
              Black on Black

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              • Chris H.
                Very Frequent User
                • March 31, 2000
                • 837

                #8
                Re: Fuel leak 69 Tripower

                Grahame, any chance you can “fix” your existing parts etc? Can you post photos of the problem parts?
                1969 Riverside Gold Coupe, L71, 14,000 miles. Top Flight, 2 Star Bowtie.

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                • Grahame M.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • November 6, 2011
                  • 224

                  #9
                  Re: Fuel leak 69 Tripower

                  Hi Chris, thanks for your response. Sorry, i should have posted some pics but my question was more general in who is the best to go to for either new or used parts for these carbs. Hopefully someone has some unserviceable units with the parts i need.

                  The issues i have with the correct dated carbs is the vac housing on the outside carb is cracked and they are missing some rods and clips for the outside carbs diaphragm to main shaft. The restorer here in oz is getting a complete list of parts i need so i can pass on to a supplier in the US, when i find one. I don't think there are many parts i'm going to need as you can see from the attached pics. I've also added a pic with parts identified in a Holley diagram.

                  Thanks again for your help, if i can't find a supplier i do have the option to use parts from 70'ish service carbs already on the car. Its not dire but i would rather find the parts to rebuild the correct carbs and then sell the other set. Sorry i don't have pics of cracks yet but both are cracked at the mounting points

                  3x2 Holley carb diagram.jpgDated Carb 1.jpgDated Carb 2.jpgDated Carb 3.jpgDated Carb 4.jpg
                  69 427 Tri-Power 4 Speed
                  Black on Black

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                  • Chris H.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • March 31, 2000
                    • 837

                    #10
                    Re: Fuel leak 69 Tripower

                    Grahame, in post #5 you mentioned that you had a supplier in Oz. I would leverage that guy first. Holley is still a company here in the USA, and I also use eBay for for Holley stuff. Summit is also a resource for me. I don’t have a lot of experience with international shipping but those are the places I would start. You may also find help on Corvette Forum.
                    1969 Riverside Gold Coupe, L71, 14,000 miles. Top Flight, 2 Star Bowtie.

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                    • Grahame M.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • November 6, 2011
                      • 224

                      #11
                      Re: Fuel leak 69 Tripower

                      Thanks Chris, appreciate the advice. I'll try the Corvette Forum and maybe some of the bigger suppliers. I think i'll have to find someone with lots of bits for Holley's sitting around for the link rods in particular. The supplier here does a lot of refurb/re coloring and major repairs on Holley's but doesn't really have many parts for these type of carbs in particular.

                      Thanks again for you help.

                      Grahame
                      69 427 Tri-Power 4 Speed
                      Black on Black

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