100 Point vs Higher Award Clarification

[Brian D.]

My understanding is that 100 Point Master Judge awards/caps can be received at either a Regional Meet or a National Convention.
200 Point and higher may only be received at a National Convention.
I also believe that this has been the case since the Judging Recognition awards were first introduced.
Am I correct or mistaken?
This time, I actually am asking for a friend.

[David H.]

Re: 100 Point vs Higher Award Clarification

My understanding is that 100 Point Master Judge awards/caps can be received at either a Regional Meet or a National Convention.
200 Point and higher may only be received at a National Convention.
I also believe that this has been the case since the Judging Recognition awards were first introduced.
Am I correct or mistaken?
This time, I actually am asking for a friend.

Brian

You are correct. Scroll down to "Judging Recognition Awards" on link below.

https://www.ncrs.org/services/judging-awards.php

Dave

[Arland D.]

Re: 100 Point vs Higher Award Clarification

Not exactly although that's the way it is today but when the judging recognition program was started by Dennis Clark, there was only a Master Judge (100 points) designation and those were awarded only at nationals. Years later, the 200, 300, and 400 designations were added for the truly disturbed among us. Over the years, the 100 point Master hats began being awarded at regional meets as well by popular demand for those who felt they would probably never make it to a national. The original concept for all the judging recognition was that any member who earned a black hat at any level deserved their fifteen minutes of fame by receiving the recognition in front of a national crowd at the convention.

[Ed N.]

Re: 100 Point vs Higher Award Clarification

If you received a 100 point Red Hat, would you still receive a red hat for 200, 300, or will it be black?

[Arland D.]

Re: 100 Point vs Higher Award Clarification

Black.

NCRS Red Hat Master Judge Award:

Presented only at a National Convention to an individual who has been recognized by the organization and membership for accumulating a minimum of 100 points in our judging recognition program, and participating as an owner in the judging program achieving one of the highest awards offered, either the NCRS Duntov Mark-of-Excellence, the NCRS McLellan Mark-of-Excellence, the NCRS Hill Mark-of-Excellence, the NCRS Chevrolet Bowtie Preservation Award or the NCRS Chevrolet Crossed Flags Award.

[Harry S.]

Re: 100 Point vs Higher Award Clarification

5-Star, National only also.

[Dave P.]

Re: 100 Point vs Higher Award Clarification

The original concept [ ] was that any member who earned a black hat at any level deserved their fifteen minutes of fame by receiving the recognition in front of a national crowd at the convention.

And also required that the recipient had to pay for registering, traveling to, and attending (at a minimum) that year's National Membership Meeting. So it costs another few hun to actually be presented with your 200+ Black or Red Hat if that's all you attend the Nats for that year.

If you received a 100 point Red Hat, would you still receive a red hat for 200, 300, or will it be black?

Only one Red Hat, although Kevin Goodman has two.
The recipient must be a Master Judge prior to receiving his Red Hat.
> If you receive your Award prior to becoming a Master Judge, you will receive your Award, Black Hat, then Red Hat.
> If you become a Master Judge then receive your Award, you get the Red Hat at a following Convention.

> You don't get the Red Hat until the convention after you have compiled the two prerequisites. So a minimum of two Conventions if you receive your Master and Award at the same convention. Three conventions if you don't. (I think. It took me 3 conventions, I only had 20 points when I received my McClellan.)

5-Star, National only also.

5-Star. When the NCRS Judging Recognition Program jumped the shark.

[Gary S.]

Re: 100 Point vs Higher Award Clarification

Dave Perry wrote: "And also required that the recipient had to pay for registering, traveling to, and attending (at a minimum) that year's National Membership Meeting. So it costs another few hun to actually be presented with your 200+ Black or Red Hat if that's all you attend the Nats for that year."

This had my attention and many others back in 2014/2015. This "requirement" (NJC's requirement past and present) for 200 up master judge recognition is one of the stupidest, most inconsiderate, costly and selfish demands placed on our members. It assumes everyone has unlimited time, unlimited money and eats, breaths and sleeps NCRS. The current NJC could change this with a wave of his hand, but won't per email to me, and BOD could also but won't for whatever reason, fear? This is the age of immediate recognition for accomplishments. You don't even have to attend a college graduation to get your diploma. This requirement is not a check mark for membership retention. There was a long, informative thread with 31 posts on this in Jan. 2015, but it is closed. But, you can view here:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

[Brian M.]

Re: 100 Point vs Higher Award Clarification

Dave Perry wrote: "And also required that the recipient had to pay for registering, traveling to, and attending (at a minimum) that year's National Membership Meeting. So it costs another few hun to actually be presented with your 200+ Black or Red Hat if that's all you attend the Nats for that year."

This had my attention and many others back in 2014/2015. This "requirement" (NJC's requirement past and present) for 200 up master judge recognition is one of the stupidest, most inconsiderate and selfish demands placed on our members. It assumes everyone has unlimited time, unlimited money and eats, breaths and sleeps NCRS. The current NJC could change this with a wave of his hand, but won't per email to me, and BOD could also but won't for whatever reason, fear? If you want to revisit my efforts, read this thread from back in 2015:

https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...gnition-policy

Gary,
I get a message saying I am not authorized to open the link you posted.
Brian

[Gary S.]

Re: 100 Point vs Higher Award Clarification

Sorry Brian, seems that thread got closed. I entered a new link in my original post.

[Michael J.]

Re: 100 Point vs Higher Award Clarification

Interesting, I knew they closed threads but didn't know they removed them from ever being viewed.