84 trim tag information

[Perry M.]

[David H.]

Re: 84 trim tag information

I am the original owner of an 84 Corvette that I special ordered. The car only has 7000 miles on it. I have all the original paperwork and documentation including a service manual. I want information off the trim tag however, I cannot find the trim tag. The service manual says it’s located on the hinge plate on the passenger side. Also, it states that there is an information tag in the storage compartment behind the driver seat. My car doesn’t have either of these two documents. The car is 100% original and all labels etc. have never been removed. What gives? How can this information not have been installed at the factory?

Perry

Gone with the wind?

Early 1984 VIN had a Trim Tag, looking roughly like a C3 Trim Tag, affixed to outside passenger-side panel that sits below female (can I say that word?) hood latch.

Later VIN had a "Service Parts Label" affixed to the car. This paper, adhesive-backed, sticker shows up in a variety of places on C4. As early C4 Service Manuals are somewhat variable, perhaps our "sticker put'er on'er" didn't get the memo..

Look under center console lid, etc - anyplace that lifts up and has a flat surface. Idea was easy access for service technician to get option codes,etc.

Expect you want to have your car judged, and it can't be Flight judged without a Trim Tag/Service Parts Label.

In the case of no label, a copy of your "Service Parts Label" or Build Sheet can be obtained from the National Corvette Museum.

Contact National C4 Team Leader, Tom Barr, and inform him of your situation. Tom will give you an address so you can have NCM send that document DIRECTLY to him. i.e. does NOT go to you first. Tom will verify and sign document, returning it to you. From your description, I expect you'll be taking it to a Regional. If you also plan on doing Crossed-Flags, then you should make Tom aware of that as well. At the Regional, Tom will inform his judges of your Service Parts Label situation, as-well-as your request for Crossed-Flags sign-off.

Your, Tom Barr acknowledged, NCM document will then be your "Service Parts Label" for Flight Judging.

Dave

[Perry M.]

[Patrick H.]

Re: 84 trim tag information

The reason I started the this search is because I wanted to find the paint code for the black exterior paint as I need to paint the front cowl section in front of the hood. It has a small scratch and some flex cracks.

I would not touch that at all prior to any judging.

[David H.]

Re: 84 trim tag information

David, thank you for your reply. After taking a a closer look at my car, I found the metal trim tag under the passenger side hood latch as you described. I know there’s no gummed back sticker on the console lid or on the storage lids. Any other suggestions for that information? My assembly manual has a revision of 9/83. Can you tell me if my car is early, mid, or late production? The last numbers are 17754. The reason I started the this search is because I wanted to find the paint code for the black exterior paint as I need to paint the front cowl section in front of the hood. It has a small scratch and some flex cracks.

Perry

That is your Trim Tag. There is no Service Parts Label attached to your car. What you have is correct for Flight Judging.

As to your options question, NCM has those build sheets for sale.

Paint information can also be found at:

https://www.corvettepaintcodes.com/

As Patrick said, don't do any paint "touch-ups" before judging.

Dave

[Perry M.]

Re: 84 trim tag information

A picture showing the location in the storage compartment.

[David H.]

Re: 84 trim tag information

He HAS a trim tag. His car should be able to be judged the way it is, because that is the way it was. (Not the way we WISH it was). 63-82s are judged with metal trim tags and no SPIDS. Only 20,000 of the 365,000 C4s built are affected. I don't think an owner of one of these 20,000 outlier C4s should be required to do something that owners of other metal tag cars can't or don't have to do.

The procedure to acquire a build sheet from NCM is for a MISSING SPID, not a car that never HAD a SPID. If the OP's car has a metal trim tag (identical to the tags on 1963 to 1982) he should not need a build sheet. If I'm misguided, and Tom B requires a SPID for the 20,000 C4s that never had a SPID, I feel this is wrong. Build sheets are available for any BG produced Corvette. We don't require 81 and 82 owners to get a build sheet, why should an early 84 owner be required to jump through hoops?

Paint and Interior colors are on the tag. If a C4 judge needs a SPID to validate OEM content on an 84 he doesn't know the product very well. There are only a few options and they are fairly straight forward to determine if they are original to the car or have been deleted. Judges shouldn't need a SPID for an 84 or 85. These years aren't complicated. The biggie is Z51 or not? A knowledgeable 84-85 guy knows the differences without looking at any SPID.

Dave

Read through the entire thread. My comments to Perry, that you (DavePerry) are taking out of context, was when he thought he didn't have a Tag. My response to him re NCM and contacting Tom Barr are proper when you don't have a tag. (e.g. replaced/threw away center console, etc). Happens.

Later, after Perry indicated he found his metal tag (btw where I indicated he should look), I stated that was his proper tag for judging.

My further comments re NCM and Corvette paint web sites were to give him some additional resources and I believe Perry understood what that help was for.

Dave

p.s. Dave Perry, please direct your ire towards someone else, you're getting tiring.

[Dave P.]

Re: 84 trim tag information

People that don't know what they are talking about annoy people that do.

[David H.]

Re: 84 trim tag information

People that don't know what they are talking about annoy people that do.

Spot on, Dave, spot on.

[Perry M.]

[John D.]

Re: 84 trim tag information

I used to own a March '83 car that was used to help write the first C4 manual. Two well known judges came to my house and spent hours looking at the all original car. Then one said that was a serious issue with my car. No trim tag. I laughed and said yes there is but not where you all think it is.
Finally I quit teasing them and showed them where it was.
I will always miss my two tone blue car. Was stolen from me in the big D.

[Perry M.]

Re: 84 trim tag information

A march 83 car would be a very early 84 so I am assuming your trim tag was on the side of the female hood latch on the passenger side, correct?