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  • Keith W.
    Very Frequent User
    • May 25, 2018
    • 200

    Exhaust Tips (1970)

    Any idea on how far out of the exhaust bevel the chrome exhaust tips should extend? Is it better to measure from the muffler?
  • Don L.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • August 31, 2005
    • 1005

    #2
    Don Lowe
    NCRS #44382
    Carolinas Chapter

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    • Mark E.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • April 1, 1993
      • 4542

      #3
      Re: Exhaust Tips (1970)

      Don,

      Would you share this? I researched this a few years ago while assembling my 1970, and didn't find any information in AIM regarding exhaust tip placement. Sheet 8 - A4 has arrows showing vertical clearance from the surround but with no dimension. And no measurements for horizontal placement shown. I may have a bad copy or missing pages.
      Mark Edmondson
      Dallas, Texas
      Texas Chapter

      1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
      1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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      • Terry M.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • September 30, 1980
        • 15600

        #4
        Re: Exhaust Tips (1970)

        Originally posted by Mark Edmondson (22468)
        Don,

        Would you share this? I researched this a few years ago while assembling my 1970, and didn't find any information in AIM regarding exhaust tip placement. Sheet 8 - A4 has arrows showing vertical clearance from the surround but with no dimension. And no measurements for horizontal placement shown. I may have a bad copy or missing pages.
        Like Don I don't have my AIM at hand, but I am not surprised at what Mark found. Original exhaust pipes had a hex shaped pad spot welded to the pipe after the mufflers and the original tips had a cut out that mated with the pad. These two parts dictated the location of the tip and its horizontal location as well. Thus, there was no dimensions called out. Replacement pipes and tips don't have either the pad or the cut out thus the tips can fave variable locations.
        Terry

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        • Bill B.
          Very Frequent User
          • August 1, 2016
          • 303

          #5
          Re: Exhaust Tips (1970)

          Here is the '70 AIM where view C depicts what Terry was saying. Unfortunately, no dimensions provided. In my limited experience, I have observed the '70 - '73 extensions configured in all possible distances from the bezel. I could not get a good consensus on a reasonable average from the cars I observed, as I too needed to set the distance on replacement mufflers and tips over the years. Even Chevrolet marketing pics from back in the day appeared to have wide variation!

          20230309_172144.jpg

          I eventually set mine to the approximate visual depiction shown on the 1972 Dealer Brochure (the fold-out spread that had the body lifted off the chassis) - The tips are shown on the body pic above the chassis. Here is that picture:

          20230309_174708.jpg
          Last edited by Bill B.; March 9, 2023, 05:49 PM. Reason: added where I set mine, and a pic of brochure.
          Bill Bertelli
          Northeast and Carolinas Chapters Member
          '70 Resto Mod LT-1 w/ partial '70 ZR-1 drivetrain

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          • Don L.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • August 31, 2005
            • 1005

            #6
            Re: Exhaust Tips (1970)

            Hi all. Just catching up on this thread and after reading Terry's post, I must acknowledge that my rememberer is evidently broken. Exhaust pipe key and exhaust tip slot sets the depth. Doh! I knew that.

            I will add that my '72 has Top Flighted 4 times (Chapter, Chapter, Regional and National) and each time, location of my reproduction Fortier tips passed judging without deduct or notation.

            Seems what we need is for someone with a known-original car (with original exhaust system) to measure extension depth so we can all be in the know. Anyone?

            Thanks.
            Don Lowe
            NCRS #44382
            Carolinas Chapter

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            • Keith M.
              Very Frequent User
              • January 17, 2021
              • 671

              #7
              Re: Exhaust Tips (1970)

              To me the only correct dimension is what you think looks best!! For me I like the look of the photo Bill posted in the brochure. Very nuanced. I always felt these looked weird on any car if they stuck out too far which many people choose to do. Oh well.
              ***************
              late Oct 1969 L46 350/350, M21 4spd, 3.70 posi convertible --As with life, restoration is a journey, not a destination. Though restored cars provide both journeys AND destinations!

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              • Ron G.
                Very Frequent User
                • December 1, 1984
                • 865

                #8
                Re: Exhaust Tips (1970)

                Keith,

                If you like I can send you some pics as I have an NOS 1970 exhaust tip.

                - Ron
                "SOLID LIFTERS MATTER"

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                • Keith M.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • January 17, 2021
                  • 671

                  #9
                  Re: Exhaust Tips (1970)

                  Originally posted by Ron Goduti (8076)
                  Keith,

                  If you like I can send you some pics as I have an NOS 1970 exhaust tip.

                  - Ron
                  sure!! please do
                  ***************
                  late Oct 1969 L46 350/350, M21 4spd, 3.70 posi convertible --As with life, restoration is a journey, not a destination. Though restored cars provide both journeys AND destinations!

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                  • Keith W.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • May 25, 2018
                    • 200

                    #10
                    Re: Exhaust Tips (1970)

                    Originally posted by Don Lowe (44382)
                    Hi all. Just catching up on this thread and after reading Terry's post, I must acknowledge that my rememberer is evidently broken. Exhaust pipe key and exhaust tip slot sets the depth. Doh! I knew that.

                    I will add that my '72 has Top Flighted 4 times (Chapter, Chapter, Regional and National) and each time, location of my reproduction Fortier tips passed judging without deduct or notation.

                    Seems what we need is for someone with a known-original car (with original exhaust system) to measure extension depth so we can all be in the know. Anyone?

                    Thanks.
                    Are there many cars that are 52 years old that still have the original exhaust system? I would love to see a picture along with a measurement from the back of the tip to the muffler.

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                    • Patrick H.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • December 1, 1989
                      • 11643

                      #11
                      Re: Exhaust Tips (1970)

                      Here is one of a 301 mile 1972 ZR-1 that went through the judging process several years ago.
                      I note that the "back" (actually forward) flat surface of the tip matched the inner edge of the bezel on the valance.
                      Attached Files
                      Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                      71 "deer modified" coupe
                      72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                      2008 coupe
                      Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                      • Keith W.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • May 25, 2018
                        • 200

                        #12
                        Re: Exhaust Tips (1970)

                        Ron, can you please send to me as well? Thanks.

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                        • Don L.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • August 31, 2005
                          • 1005

                          #13
                          Re: Exhaust Tips (1970)

                          Originally posted by Ron Goduti (8076)
                          Keith,

                          If you like I can send you some pics as I have an NOS 1970 exhaust tip.

                          - Ron
                          Why not post the pic(s) so we all can see/learn?
                          Don Lowe
                          NCRS #44382
                          Carolinas Chapter

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                          • Gary B.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • July 31, 1979
                            • 926

                            #14
                            Re: Exhaust Tips (1970)

                            2023-03-12 14.20.48.jpgThis is the tab that Terry was referring to. It was spot welded to the muffler extension. This, in essence, positioned the tip automatically when it was slid on. Usually, they are not straight, are crooked, but back then who cared?
                            Gary B

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