1970 front lower spoiler bolt head in or out
A few years ago at the Phoenix NCRS reginal I lost points because I had the head of the bolt facing out. Was told the nut faced out & lost minor points. There is a 9000 MI one on CF that has the bolt heads facing out. Looks better that way. Were they both ways? Also lost points that was told was a incorrect Radiator shroud but was factory. Oh well still got TF
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Re: 1970 front lower spoilier bolt head in or out
If you're talking about the green 70 that is for sale, for the middle two fasteners the bolt heads on that car are to the back, just as is typical.Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
71 "deer modified" coupe
72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
2008 coupe
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Re: 1970 front lower spoilier bolt head in or out
THANKS Couldn't tell. What about the outer ones?65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
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Re: 1970 front lower spoilier bolt head in or out
They're all shown.
img_2205_d7fc8682fbacbd50428a14d3ecffc5d23486af05.jpgVice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
71 "deer modified" coupe
72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
2008 coupe
Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.Comment
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Re: 1970 front lower spoilier bolt head in or out
You are too fast relooked at the picture & saw that is the way they are put in & was going to delete. THANKS Ken65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
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Re: 1970 front lower spoilier bolt head in or out
Almost all of 1968, the bolt head is visible looking from the front of the car. Very late 68 through all of 1972, St. Louis reversed the bolt, nut assembly. The bolt head is toward the chassis, the nuts are visible on the front side. I think St. Louis found it easier to install the spoiler that way. And, oh by the way, GM called it an Extension, not a spoiler.
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Re: 1970 front lower spoilier bolt head in or out
The good Dr and Bozz are right...of course.
The only thing I would add is, let the car do the talking. If you see something that differs from conventional thinking but, the car says otherwise...document it and pass it along.
To paraphrase Terry Mac...have seen a lot of cars but, haven't seen all of them.
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Re: 1970 front lower spoilier bolt head in or out
Yes he has seen alot of my C-3 S but not all. Mark you & Terry Have seen more than your share. Trust all the old timers opinions. My 70 454 Bronze all option 4 speed had original paint before I repainted it but dont know why bolts were on the inside Ease of instillation? Hay bus driver are you retired yet. My friedd a polit for Southwest got booted for age..65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
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Re: 1970 front lower spoilier bolt head in or out
I got booted for age, too. Thank goodness, 300 years at American was long enough
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For what it's worth i would rather fly with a pilot with a lot of gray hair than a rookie that looks younger than my 40 year old kid65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
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Re: 1970 front lower spoilier bolt head in or out
That's my theory too. Imagine standing under the front suspension facing forward with the elevated body above you and the extension in your hand. Probably easiest to position the extension then push the bolts in place from the backside forward.
Two theories on variation of bolt orientation:
- Workers may have differing preferred methods
- 1970 AIM UPC 11/13 sheet A5 shows the bolt heads facing forward, which probably reflects factory standard work. So supervisors and IEs are looking for standard work to be followed while a favored method of many workers is bold head rearward.
Just a theory.Mark Edmondson
Dallas, Texas
Texas Chapter
1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze TopComment
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Re: 1970 front lower spoilier bolt head in or out
Giving 50+ year old car an assessment hit for which direction five bolts face on a simple exterior trim piece. Something that can be flipped the other way with five minutes and a wrench. Makes me wonder.***************
late Oct 1969 L46 350/350, M21 4spd, 3.70 posi convertible --As with life, restoration is a journey, not a destination. Though restored cars provide both journeys AND destinations!Comment
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Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
71 "deer modified" coupe
72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
2008 coupe
Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.Comment
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Re: 1970 front lower spoilier bolt head in or out
It would take forever to do it on a Corvette that you have NOT taken off the frame & repainted. Looks stupid to have the threads & nut sticking thru the front of the 'EXTENSION". Small deduct & still got high Top Flight even with it being a all optioned 454 4-speed convertible.65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
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Re: 1970 front lower spoilier bolt head in or out
Ken
Remember another of my Statements, which Doc knows because I have heard him paraphrase -- "There are no Corvette virgins"
As Kramden said we have always counseled owners that if they think the part is original to the car -- leave it be. That is how we learn more about what Typical Factory Production (TFP) really is.
On the other hand: If the extension was damaged in shipping the car - Do you not think the dealer would have changed it with one from the parts department. Would the mechanic who did that at the dealership have paid any attention to which direction the fasteners went. I speculate you would be lucky to get the original fasteners in there, much less the direction. Of course we deduct for dealer inspired changes, but do we know that is what happened. If the judges used CDCIF (and the car was judged after 2010 when we began using that system) the point deduction for the installation should be minor. I would have to look at the score sheets and at this time of night I am not inclined to do that, but my best guess is we should not be anguishing over a point in all this conversation. It is interesting none the less, but we should apply some perspective here. And at the end of the day we could postulate the owner gets the benefit of the doubt because we don't know if it was changed at the dealer. I think the lawyers have a term: de Minimis. My High School Latin tells me that means it is too small to worry about -- or in the vernacular "Don't sweat the small stuff" or something like that.
Make a comment on the score sheet and move on.TerryComment
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